International Police Chiefs Advocate More Gun Control

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International Police Chiefs Advocate More Gun Control
By Randy Hall
CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor
September 21, 2007
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200709/NAT20070921a.html

(CNSNews.com) - An international organization of law enforcement executives has called on the U.S. government "to support strong and effective gun violence prevention policies" to reverse a two-year rise in violent crime.

However, a pro-gun advocate said the group's recommendations show that its members need to "shut up and do their jobs."

While introducing "Taking a Stand: Reducing Gun Violence in Our Communities" on Wednesday, Russell Laine, chief of the Algonquin, Ill., police department and second vice president of the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP), pointed to figures from the Federal Bureau of Justice Statistics that indicate lethal violence across the nation increased in both 2005 and 2006.

"It is simply unacceptable that in communities across America, more than 80 people a day are dying from gun violence," Laine stated while unveiling the 46-page report, which resulted from the Great Lakes Summit on Gun Violence held in Chicago earlier this year and sponsored, in part, by the Joyce Foundation.

"Every day, dedicated police officers put their lives on the line to protect their communities from criminals who often outgun them, but we can't do it alone," he said. "This is why we are calling on policymakers and the public to help us combat gun violence."

Also participating in the event was Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.), who called the IACP report "compelling" and "a clear call to action."

"Without further delay, Congress and the administration need to do our part by enacting concrete reforms that will reduce crime and protect the safety of police officers and all Americans," said Kennedy.

"In the northern part of my congressional district, there are more than 3,000 gang members, and all have relatively easy access to weapons," said Rep. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.). "We need to implement common-sense policies that will curb gun violence and reduce gang activity - making our communities safer and stronger."

The report makes 39 recommendations, which are divided into three areas: keeping communities safe; preventing and solving gun crime; and keeping police officers safe.

Specific proposals include:




Requiring that all gun sales take place through federally licensed dealers;

Enhancing the ability of law enforcement to use federal gun trace data to deter illegal trafficking;

Removing all firearms and ammunition from batterers when law enforcement responds to domestic violence calls; and

Mandating safe storage of firearms by private citizens.


Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, praised the report as a "clear road map from the nation's police chiefs of steps we can take now to combat gun violence."

"In this landmark report, police leaders are saying they are tired of the nation's gun policies being held hostage by the special interest gun lobby," Helmke said in a news release.

"The police chiefs have set out a strong, reasonable agenda for action," he added. "The Brady Campaign supports it, as should every American who wants sensible action to save lives."

However, Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, told Cybercast News Service on Thursday that he considers the report "outrageous" and a sign that IACP members need to "shut up and do their jobs."

"Clearly, they haven't learned anything from the last 20 years because if you look at statistics over a longer period of time than the last two years, crime has actually been declining steadily," he said. "The uptick, and, in fact, a lot of the crime rate you find in our country, occurs in precisely the jurisdictions where gun control is the most onerous."

Pratt added that members of the IACP are "dangerous" to the average citizen. "They claim to be concerned about our safety, but they would take away our guns and make us less safe."

Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, was also critical of the IACP, which he told Cybercast News Service "represents a lot of appointed police chiefs from a lot of totalitarian and dictatorship countries where human rights are constantly violated and freedom of the press doesn't even exist."

"There isn't a gun-control proposal that this organization hasn't supported, as opposed to the National Association of Chiefs of Police, which is very pro-gun rights and represents elected sheriffs," he said.

Gottlieb also said that the Joyce Foundation is "a notoriously left-wing anti-gun rights organization that has funded virtually every gun rights study, survey and poll that's been done in the last six years. On top of that, they donate to or support a significant number of gun-control and gun-ban groups."

As for the report's recommendations, Gottlieb dismissed them as "extremely old hat." The IACP wants federal oversight of the firearms industry "because they want to do everything they can to raise the price of firearms and make it hard to get them," he said.
 
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"In the northern part of my congressional district, there are more than 3,000 gang members, and all have relatively easy access to weapons," said Rep. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.). "We need to implement common-sense policies that will curb gun violence and reduce gang activity - making our communities safer and stronger."

Umm, Illinois is not exactly an RKBA haven. I wonder if these gang members have their FOID cards handy...
 
Originally from Article: Removing all firearms and ammunition from batterers when law enforcement responds to domestic violence calls

I seem to remember the Fraternal Order of Police complaining about this as some police officers would have been disarmed. The police need to be more effective on stopping crime not hindering legal gun owners. My question then is if these gang members are only committing crimes with guns, then what makes them a gang? Are they involved in other illegal activities as well? Or is it just the guns?
 
It bears repeating. The CHIEFS are not the police. The chiefs, esp. in any major city, are political hacks who happen to be in uniform. They are usually friendly with the administration in power, and in most major cities this means a liberal Democratic administration or at least a left of center "Republican" one. Listening to the chiefs yap about what the cops do or do not want is like listening to some party hack general officer yap about what the troops do or do not want.
 
Ah but those under the chief have the option of not enforcing unlawful orders and not working for those people. Why doesn't the police union just step up and try to get a clause sayign that they get more of a say in who selects the chief.
 
The union has other priorities. And the system of having the local Tammany Hall select the chief goes way, way back. Direct votes would be an improvement. That system helps keep sheriffs in check.
 
Other nations do not have the benefit of the US Constitution and our Bill of Rights. I weep for them!

We do!!!
 
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It bears repeating. The CHIEFS are not the police. The chiefs, esp. in any major city, are political hacks who happen to be in uniform. They are usually friendly with the administration in power, and in most major cities this means a liberal Democratic administration or at least a left of center "Republican" one. Listening to the chiefs yap about what the cops do or do not want is like listening to some party hack general officer yap about what the troops do or do not want.

Just repeating it:D
 
Joyce Foundation buys the International Assn of Chiefs of Police
Posted by David Hardy · 19 September 2007 05:37 PM

They started by buying law reviews: now they're buying organizations, or at least their reports.

A while back, the antigun Joyce Foundation made a hefty grant to fund a gun summit meeting by some members of the International Assn of Chiefs of Police. Here's the pdf file.

Surprise! It concludes we need lots and lots of gun control. Ban "assault weapons," repeal the Tihart Amendment, ban .50 BMG, outlaw possession by anyone with a violent misdemeanor record, ban armor piercing using a standard of actual ability to penetrate body armor (which would encompass virtually any rifle round), outlaw private gun transfers, increase ATF's budget, etc., etc.


But the interesting part is that the International apparently let Joyce staffers write the report:

"We are grateful to several key staff at the Joyce Foundation; President Ellen Alberding for her leadership, passionate concern for quality of life in our communities, and particularly for her interest in partnering with the IACP to address gun violence, Program Officer Roseanna Ander for her dedication to reducing gun violence in the Great Lake States and the nation, and her relentless enthusiasm as she worked with IACP staff to make the summit a reality and Communications Director Mary O’Connell, who has aided in highlighting and supporting the vision of our summit participants through her editing, writing and consistent work to produce this report."

Continue reading "Joyce Foundation buys the International Assn of Chiefs of Police" at http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2007/09/joyce_foundatio_9.php
 
Law enforcement like the public school system has been infiltrated and taken over by big government. Expect this kind of leftist political agenda driven police power to only get worse over time. Just as in the public school system it will gradually permeate and corrupt the system from the top down. Law enforcement has become the long arm of government power.
 
When will the war on my RKBA end?

I'm 38...been really active in the fight for RKBA since I settled down after my military stint (21), so I'm on 17 years of fighting this war.....and no, I don't see it ending anytime soon.
 
I did not mean that last post to sound completely negative or that there is no hope. What I mean is that the only way the war on your RKBA will end is if you (us) lose the war completely. We will never achieve a win which will allow us to stop fighting as the natural forces of government will always seek more and more power.
 
We will never achieve a win which will allow us to stop fighting as the natural forces of government will always seek more and more power.
Maybe that's why thomas jefferson said there needs to be a revolution and replacement of government every 20 years. Remind them who they work for.
 
Maybe that's why thomas jefferson said there needs to be a revolution and replacement of government every 20 years. Remind them who they work for.

Damn, we're overdue aren't we?
 
The IACP has been anti-gun as long as I can remember, back to the late '60s in my memory. In short, they're another group espousing the 'citizens should be victims' theory of law enforcement.

If they were really interested in reducing crime and violence - as opposed to their goals of controlling the citizenry - they would support arming citizens in an effort to remove victims from the equation.

But then, if citizens were not victims, the funding for police departments would suffer. It wouldn't go away, we will always need police to investigate things and take surviving villains into custody and write reports and such. But law enforcement 'administrators' - who aren't cops, as has been mentioned - panic and think they'll lose money.
 
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