Interview – Pia Clerté: It is not possible to have any tool for the purpose of selfdefense in Sweden

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That article was no surprise. Leftist politicians can't pass enough laws to stop criminals.
They only use law-abiding citizens as easy scapegoats, to artificially claim that they are "doing something".

Vast numbers of US citizens, after school shootings, demand "Do something!", but continue to confuse new gun regulations (which work only on law-abiding citizens) with Much longer jail sentences.
If violent thugs die in prison, why should we sympathize?
 
"Civilized societies" do tend to attempt to modify behavior with rules, laws, etc. We all need to remember that America is the exception rather than the rule when it comes to the issues the 2nd amendment was intended to protect... The fact that the general population become like sheep only becomes apparent when wolves show up.... Fortunately for those countries, humanity's basic nature will come back to the fore when threatened - no matter how "civilized" we are.. The sad truth though, is that countries that don't allow their citizens to defend themselves will pay a very high cost in blood if the wolf ever comes to their door, before responding - if they're still able... I think the Swiss have it right - requiring all of their young folks to serve in their country's defense for a year or two....

I was lucky enough to grow up as an Army brat and lived in several different countries growing up so I learned early on that we were different in a few very significant ways... I only appreciated what I saw as a kid years later when I went into the Army myself and got my "senior trip" to a very bad place. If you live long enough you get to learn a lot about how the world works. I suspect that requiring all of our young people to serve in either military or civilian service for two years might be a very good thing for all of us... Just think of all those fine young professional athletes that have never served their country (and never will if they can help it...). There'd be a lot fewer folks disrespecting their own country I suspect....
 
Sweden was, and is, one of the most law abiding countries, not much self defense was necessary. However, with the recent influx of refuges from not so nice places Sweden allows in for humanitarian reasons, things are changing, and not for the better. They were a very homogeneous population where everyone knew the rules and followed them. Many of the people coming in couldn’t care less about rules and just look at Sweden as easy.

From what I understand, the govt. is downplaying the crimes committed by refugees, and asking the same of the news media. In a recent election, the prime minister was unable to form a govt. for months because they did not want to collaborate with the small ultra right anti immigrant party.

They’ve never had to contend with the level of crime going on there now, I don’t think they know how to deal with it yet and are in denial. It’s a shame because essentially they are very good people with good intentions, but being the conscience of the world has come back to bite them in the butt.

All that being said, the crime is localized in a few cities, such as Malmo and parts of Stockholm, the balance of Sweden is still some of the safest places in the world.
 
All that being said, the crime is localized in a few cities, such as Malmo and parts of Stockholm, the balance of Sweden is still some of the safest places in the world.
You might have missed this part of the interview:

In 2017 there were over 300 shoot-outs in Sweden. Sweden is also known for high number of grenade explosions and also a very high rape rate. Are these issues limited to just a few high crime areas like in the US, or does it affect the population in general? What is the general feeling as regards security? Does it have any effect on civilian firearms ownership?

There are areas that are more affected than others regarding the shootings and linked to criminal gangs. The rape crimes are however not linked to specific areas, and we even have cases of rape in schools and in broad daylight. In a recent study by the Swedish authorities BRÅ almost one fourth of the population choses another route or means of transport to avoid crime (https://www.bra.se/om-bra/nytt-fran...och-oro-for-brott-begransar-vardagslivet.html). Among women the age of 24-40 the number is 42%.
 
The level of crime is beside the issue of the human right to self defense.

... I learned early on that we were different in a few very significant ways ...

I read an article several years ago about how the United States is unusual among unusual countries. The problem is keeping our outlier character and not being dragged to the mean.
 
Good grief !! They aren't even allowed pepper spray outside of their homes !

That's Denmark when they made it legal to posses pepper spray at home this year.

In Sweden, they are illegal even at home. Imagine your neighbor calling police because he thinks someone broke into your home and the entire thing ending with you being charged for a can of small pepper spray they found inside.
 
Wasn't a male Danish politician who championed allowing many Somalis into Denmark actually raped by one of them in the politician's private home?

If so, this would Never appear on CNN or MSNBC.

Even without a loaded gun allowed in a home, the law against pepper spray is beyond insane.
It Is All About Control, not defense against somebody with a knife or long shard of broken glass.
 
Sweden was, and is, one of the most law abiding countries, not much self defense was necessary. However, with the recent influx of refuges from not so nice places Sweden allows in for humanitarian reasons, things are changing, and not for the better. They were a very homogeneous population where everyone knew the rules and followed them. Many of the people coming in couldn’t care less about rules and just look at Sweden as easy.

Exactly, who do people think are behind the hand grenade violations mentioned in the link? Were there any before the Muslims came?
 
It’s not just refugees from the Middle East, they’re just the most recent. They also took in people from Eastern Europe and South and Central America.

There has been a Russian mob operation there for years. I don’t know who the bomb throwers are, probably not ethnic Swedes, but there has been some kick back from the extreme right over immigration policy.

The borders between the Scandinavian countries were pretty porous. If you managed to get into Denmark say, they didn’t do passport control if you entered from there into Sweden, or from Norway into Sweden. That has changed recently with the mass migration from the Middle East.
 
America is pretty unique, I think. My wife's home country of Australia not so much. One Aussie gent opined that if a "copper" were to see a bat behind someone's front door, it would be assumed to be a weapon and the homeowner arrested for weapons violation. Self defense is pretty much forbidden, it seems and they have been experiencing home invasions and car jackings by youth gangs and immigrants gangs. Another Aussie gent said he was glad to be going to the US and was interested in checking out Kennesaw, Georgia where he could be sure he could defend his family.
 
With the influx of troublesome foreigners I can only hope the Swedes will rediscover their heritage and secure weapons for the offense.

Hey Jim can You guess thanks to which country EU is flooded with refugees from Middle East?
 
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