Invade the world, invite the world--Iraqis coming to a neighborhood near you

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This is what happens when you go invading countries that don't threaten your national interest--sooner or later you have to take care of their refugees. At least this is consistent with the Bush program, more war and more immigrants.

First we took in the Vietnamese and the Cambodians, then 3+!!!!!! million Salvadoreans due to our involvement in their Civil War. Of course the Salvadoreans enriched our country with the gift of Mara Salvatrucha and similar gangs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha

Iraqis, coming soon to a neighborhood near you. Brought to you courtesy of the George Bush/Ted Kennedy alliance for open borders. All rights reserved.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/29/AR2006122901066_pf.html

We Can't Ignore Iraq's Refugees

By Edward M. Kennedy
Saturday, December 30, 2006; A21



With the nation still at war in Iraq, each of us is deeply grateful to the brave men and women in our armed forces who celebrated the holidays this year with half their hearts at home and half in Iraq. But this year especially it is essential that we also reflect on another human cost of the war -- the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children who have fled their homes and often their country to escape the violence of a nation increasingly at war with itself.

The refugees are witnesses to the cruelty that stains our age, and they cannot be overlooked. America bears heavy responsibility for their plight. We have a clear obligation to stop ignoring it and help chart a sensible course to ease the refugee crisis. Time is not on our side. We must act quickly and effectively.

Today, within Iraq, 1.6 million people have already fled or been expelled from their homes. An additional 1.8 million, fleeing sectarian violence, kidnappings, extortion, death threats and carnage, have sought refuge in neighboring countries. At least 700,000 are in Jordan, 600,000 in Syria, 100,000 in Egypt, 54,000 in Iran and 20,000 in Lebanon. Typically they are not living in refugee camps but have relocated in urban areas, where they must draw on their own meager resources to pay for food and shelter, and must depend on the good graces of the host governments.

The neighboring countries, in turn, are under enormous financial stress from the rapidly increasing needs of the refugees. In Jordan, they now make up more than 10 percent of the population -- the equivalent of 30 million people flooding America's shores. These countries are increasingly unable to meet the refugees' basic needs.

Borders are being closed to more and more of these men, women and children, with the result that many who are most in need or in danger are trapped in the Iraqi caldron of violence. As it continues to boil, the humanitarian crisis will only worsen.

The recent report of the Iraq Study Group rightly concluded that if this refugee situation "is not addressed, Iraq and the region could be further destabilized, and the humanitarian suffering could be severe." Sadly, as with so many other aspects of the Iraq war -- from the growing threat of the insurgency to the need to provide adequate armor for our troops -- the administration has failed to recognize the breadth of the crisis and to adjust our policy to address the plain facts on the ground.

There is an overwhelming need for temporary relief and permanent resettlement. Last year, however, America accepted only 202 Iraqi refugees, and next year we plan to accept approximately the same number. We and other nations of the world need to do far better.

Thousands of these refugees are fleeing because they have been affiliated in some way with the United States. Cooks, drivers and translators have been called traitors for cooperating with the United States. They know all too well that the fate of those who work with U.S. civilians or military forces can be sudden death. Yet, beyond a congressionally mandated program that accepts 50 Iraqi translators from Iraq and Afghanistan each year, the administration has done nothing to resettle brave Iraqis who provided assistance in some way to our military. This lack of conscience is fundamentally unfair. We need to do much more to help Iraqi refugees, especially those who have helped our troops.

Our nation is spending $8 billion a month to wage the war in Iraq. Yet to meet the urgent humanitarian needs of the refugees who have fled the war, the State Department plans to spend only $20 million in the current fiscal year.

America needs to lead, but we cannot adequately respond to this overwhelming crisis alone. Because of the magnitude of the problem, we also need action by Iraq's neighbors and the rest of the world. An essential first step could be to hold an international conference on the issue -- ideally sponsored by the countries in the region and the United Nations -- to begin to deal with the growing number and needs of Iraqi refugees and internally displaced persons. The United States should participate in the conference and provide substantial support for the refugees. Doing so would encourage other nations to address the crisis, help the refugees and displaced persons, and assist the countries shouldering the greatest burden.

Working with Iraq's neighbors and the United Nations, we can encourage rapid action to relieve suffering and save lives. And a productive conference could lead in turn to broader discussions and greater progress on the future of Iraq.

Clearly, in the long term we need to work together to find a way to end the violence and stop the hemorrhaging of lives. In the short term, America needs to respond far more effectively to the needs of the millions of refugees and displaced persons who are suffering so much from the war. Failure to act quickly and cooperatively with other nations will only result in more carnage, chaos and instability in the region.

The writer is a Democratic senator from Massachusetts and incoming chairman of the Senate immigration, border security and refugee subcommittee.

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http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...qi-Helpers.php

"The U.S. recently said it would begin admitting more of the more than 2 million refugees who have fled Iraq, acknowledging for the first time the country may never be safe for some who have helped the U.S. there.

Since the war began in 2003, fewer than 800 Iraqi refugees have been admitted, angering critics who argued the United States is obligated to assist many more."

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www.ronpaul2008.com
 
I would think 1-2 million would be in our near future once we pull troops out.
If we don't sell it, outsource or just give it away the government isn't happy.
 
So does this mean we'll have Sunnis and Shi'ites fighting it out on our streets?
That'll sure be a great savings in the cost of transportation for the armed forces.
How do I apply to the Governor to raise a militia regiment?

Jefferson
 
Woodrow Wilson would be proud. We're making the world safe for unrestrained democracy.

Too bad the will of these newly liberated people will probably be to get revenge on the a-holes who bombed their country into rubble. Oh wait, that's us. D'oh! Guess we'll just have to keep meddling in their affairs until they become our friends.
 
I suspect that the majority of these people will come to Europe. And I suspect that a majority of the majority will end up in Sweden. Yeah, friggin leftist bastards letting in everyone. Oh yeah, I forgot. We got a new gov't. Supposedly its right-of-center. Can't see that really. Here comes the new boss, same as the old one.
I'm voting either nationalist or libertarian next election, if I'm still here.
 
Can you imagine the clash between hardcore Sunnis and Shi'ites and the Nation of Islam?
The Imams already don't recognize the American offshoots, but there has been no open fighting here over it. I mean they are currently fighting over who is more fundamental and I think that the only thing that could bring them together is the anger at the American version.

Jefferson
 
Oh, god. I see north koreans in our future.

Well, we already have plenty of South Koreans partly as a result of the Korean war and the subsequent permanent stationing of troops in South Korea. For example: "Seung-Hui Cho was a 23-year-old South Korean immigrant with permanent resident status in the United States".

This is not to attack or single out the koreans for VT but just to point out that mass immigration follows an interventionist foreign policy just as surely as Wednesday follows Tuesday.

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www.ronpaul2008.com
 
So does this mean we'll have Sunnis and Shi'ites fighting it out on our streets?

That is not as far-fetched as it sounds. In the 1990's the Kurds and the Turks took their turf war to the land of Oktoberfest and Sauerkraut thanks to large scale immigration of both groups to Germany.


http://www2.hawaii.edu/~fredr/kurds.htm Interesting paper from two professors at the University of South Carolina.

"In the early 1990s, blocking highways and disrupting traffic on the famed German Autobahn became a trademark tactic for Kurdish demonstrators...
Beginning in 1992 and continuing with increased intensity until 1996, Turks, as well as Turkish businesses, became the targets of what was now becoming a violent struggle on the part of the PKK. On March 22, 1992, a Turkish bank and travel agency were severely vandalized in Bremen."
 
jselvy,

No, they won't do that until there are enough of them.

Then, they will get together and kick AMERICANS (Christians) out...I guess American refugees will have to go to Canada.

-- John D.
 
Then, they will get together and kick AMERICANS (Christians) out...I guess American refugees will have to go to Canada.

I doubt anyone from this board is going to head to Canada easily.
 
I dont think that it will be so bad and I doubt they will target Christians. I know a lot of Christian sects would like to believe that the end times are coming and the Muslims or Jews or someone else is responsible. The simple fact is that when you destroy a nation the refugees will need somewhere to go. I think it is the moral thing to do. If not reperations for the damage we have done to their country.

In the words of the great Malcom X, "The Chickens coming home to roost."
 
Hey, I like korean food. The real question is whether the north koreans still know how to cook. Not much demand for a tree bark and rat stew restaurant.
 
You dont have to be Christian to be American.


THANK YOU!

I swear, I get so incredibly sick of the whole "christian vs. muslim vs. everybody else" morality wars.

I'm an American, I love my country (even though it has it's flaws) and I generally love it's citizens...but do not EVER count me as a Christian, or any other faith. My relationship (or lack thereof) with the great spiritual meatball has absolutely ZILCH to do with what country I live in.

It's amazing to me, how many so-called "christians" we have on this board, who will bend over backwards to blame muslims for the world's woes at any chance they get. Every time I see someone post a reference to "the religion of peace" with a rolly-eye smiley afterwards, I'm going to follow up with two sentences. "Westboro Baptist Church" and "The Crusades".


/Rant.
 
Would they be able to function here? I have this mental image of Iraqi immigrants restraining a twitching switch hand every time a woman in shorts walked by on the street. Maybe only the unindoctrinated children should be allowed in (what age is that, 3?).
 
coylh: Well I think they would do fine. I mean according to the majority of Neo-Cons they are just begging to be freed so I dont think a woman in shorts would upset them. What do you mean indoctrinated children? Indoctrinated into what exactly?
 
Well, TN has had a fairly large population of middle-easterners for years now... and like everybody else, some of 'em are nice folk, and some are complete a**holes. So what else is new?

Honestly, I'd rather have them here (legally) as I had the illegal Mexicans.

One way or the other though, I suspect we're stuck with the whole lot of 'em, so might as well learn to deal with it.

By the way... not wanting to be racist here or anything, but I can't help but notice that locally, it's the black population that's having the biggest conniption over the immigrants... Seems many of 'em feel the Mexicans and such are hornin' in on their "minority" status...
Damnedest thing I've ever seen...


J.C.
 
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