Ipda Vs Ipsc

[Matthew Temkin]

I plan on attending some matches at the Freeport, NY gun range starting in the Spring and was curious as to which type of competition would be more in tune with stock service guns?
I plan on using my S&W Model 10, G19 and Browning HI-Power.
Any tips on what to practice on my own time to prepare?

 

[fineredmist]

I have found the G19 to be ideal for my IDPA shooting as it points well and is fast. I would recommend that you practice (unloaded) drawing from a holster and sight acquisition as your first shot is important. Dry fire and practice magazine changes and then practice dry firing and magazine changes. Practice is the name of the game. When you live fire throw in some strong hand only and support hand only shooting as you will be required to do some in some matches and you will do some in quailfication in IDPA. It is a fun game and I hope you enjoy it.

 

[Zak Smith]

USPSA has Production, which would fit the G19 well. It would also fit into the SSP class in IDPA. I believe the BHP would be in ESP div in IDPA. Really, you can shoot whatever you want, it just might be super competitive in the USPSA divisions.

 

[mscott]

Go shoot both. They are different games with different rules, but both groups will certainly welcome newcomers. Once you get started you'll be able to decide what to work on and what equipment to get. The dry fire and mag change practice already mentioned is a real good idea.

 

[Jim Watson]

Don't worry about equipment fit early on. You can enter either sport in some division or another with any of your guns. The G19 would be IDPA Stock Service Pistol or IPSC/USPSA Production. The Browning would be in IDPA Enhanced Service Pistol or IPSC/USPSA Limited. The Model 10 would be in IDPA Stock Service Revolver or IPSC/USPSA Revolver.

Due to power factor scoring in IPSC, you would be at a slight disadvantage with your Browning or S&W in IPSC/USPSA competition. But the experience would outweigh that. When you get good enough that the difference between "Minor" and "Major" power factor is all that is keeping you from winning, then you can get a specialized gun. For now, go shooting, learn the ropes, and have a good time.

 

[Sniper1Moore]

First let me welcome you to the shooting sports whether it's IDPA or USPSA you will have a blast.You have recieved some good pointers from people on this forum and I would like to add to it if I may.

While dry firing please don't have ammo in the same room with you triple check the weapon to make sure it's not loaded before doing any dry firing and if something interupts your dry firing session (phone call,knock at the door,wife or kids talking to you)always recheck the weapon to insure that it is empty and safe.

Next thing I would like to suggest is practice moving while keeping the gun pointed down range and KEEPING YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER WHILE MOVING BETWEEN FIRING POINTS.I see tooooooooo many people moving while their booger hook is on the bang switch.


When you go to your first match let the stage Safety officer or Range Officer know that it's your first match.Ask your squad mates questions and watch the other shooters run the stages.

Help out with pasting targets when your not the next up to shoot.But most importantly BE SAFE and HAVE FUN in that order.

Let us know how it goes.Ken

 

[deerassassin23]

Power Factor

What is the difference between Major And Minor?

 

[Feanaro]

Both fun games, quite different approaches. IPSC doesn't pretend to be anything but a game(or at least not too hard). IDPA is very much rooted in defensive shooting scenarios. IDPA has a lot of rules to inject realism into the game. It's open for debate as to whether they are really realistic but that's the idea. I prefer the more free-form IPSC. However...

IDPA would probably be more suitable for the revolver, at least at first. You won't have as much company in your division(read: you'll probably be IT) as in IPSC, in my experience, but IPSC tends to require lots of ammunition. Like, five speedloaders worth or more(this is, of course, variable). Many of the wheelgun guys who are really into it carry 9, 10, 11 speedloaders/moonclips. IDPA is more like three cylinders.

What is the difference between Major And Minor?

All hits to the A-zone of the target(the IPSC bullseye, if you will) are worth the same number of points. However, if you hit outside that area, you will score better if you are using major ammunition rather than minor.

 

[skinewmexico]

Practice keeping your finger off the trigger until you are on the target on your draws too. Shoot both, it's all good.

 

[SkydivnShooter]

In IPSC/USPSA, Power Factor is:
Major = 165
Minor = 125
and is measured by the following formula:

Bullet weight (in grains) x velocity (in fps) / 1000

Example - 180 gr Rem UMC - .40 S&W typically yields -

180gr x 1000fps / 1000 = 180 power factor

 

[Flexmoney]

The G19 is the way to go. Good for USPSA Production Division and IDPA Stock Service Pistol Division.

Non-race holster worn on the side (no appendix).

In both of the above divisions, mag capacity is limted to 10+1.

In IDPA, you want at least 3 mags. In USPSA, you likely want 5 mags (longer course of fire).

 

[WESHOOT2]

Also check out the fine matches held by the Dutchess County club....

 

[RH45]

I know I'm getting old and forgetfull, but, my memory says that a Browning High Power is a double action/single action which would be fine in SSP for IDPA, and production, for USPSA/IPSC.

 

[Jim Watson]

Turn yourself in at the glue factory. The Browning High Power is strictly single action. There have been some double action mutants but they are pretty scarce.

 

[RH45]

I called my buddy that used to have the Hi Power that I shot 20+ years ago and he said the same thing, that MOST Hi Powers were SA only, but, the one he used to have was DA.
My memory isn't all that good anymore, but, I do remember that it wasn't a pistol I cared for.

 

[offroaddiver]

both are fun to shoot. I had shot IPSC for years when i shot my first IDPA this past sat. IDPA in a very broad description is more "tactical" and IPSC is your standard run and gun. I know i'll hear it from both sides that this is a horrible description but as I said It's a "VERY BROAD" description. I enjoyed my IDPA shoot and the IPSC shoot is over a week away.

Any shooting sport will be fun. ASK questions and be mindful that the rules have some big variances. Just go have fun. There's guys out there shooting that have thousands upon thousands invested in their guns (especially the race guns). I asked a guy how much it ended up costing him on his rig and his answer was "could of bought a Z3 but this gives me more fun"

 

[1911NM]

I wholeheartedly agree. Find some shoots, either IDPA or IPSC/USPSA, go watch, ask questions, when you feel comfortable shoot. I am way too old and decrepit to run with the young guns, but I have more fun than anyone ought to legally have. I shoot USPSA because of the higher round count matches, and the run and gun. It's just flat fun.