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From Iron Brigade Armory's website:
All Steel - Yes; one-piece - Yes; Rugged - Yes; Badger Ordnance made - No.
Don
All Steel - Yes; one-piece - Yes; Rugged - Yes; Badger Ordnance made - No.
Don
Iron Brigade Armory Chandler rifle.
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Steve Smith
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Right. Big deal.
I didn't see a reason to close the thread based on remarks, but I may due to childishness. Ya'll knock it off.
I didn't see a reason to close the thread based on remarks, but I may due to childishness. Ya'll knock it off.
SpookyPistolero
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That's a really sharp looking setup, for sure. I really like the bolt handle and love the McMillan stock. What is the overall weight like?
Also, out of curiosity, when you work the action do you find it's slicker than snot or kind of heavy stroke? I've never fondled the high grade stuff before so I didn't really know if tighter tolerances might mean it's harder to work.
PS [Those rings must be either amazing or awful (though I'd imagine the former) considering the time spent arguing who is due the credit/blame. They're rings.
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Also, out of curiosity, when you work the action do you find it's slicker than snot or kind of heavy stroke? I've never fondled the high grade stuff before so I didn't really know if tighter tolerances might mean it's harder to work.
PS [Those rings must be either amazing or awful (though I'd imagine the former) considering the time spent arguing who is due the credit/blame. They're rings.
]
Detritus
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i HAVE to ask
Oktagon, Nice rifle
anybody Else (esp those who nosed around NC gunshows 7-10 years ago) remember when IBA was selling the Chandler for about half that or less??
sorry last time i went to the Iron Brigade website i nearly died.
i am not kidding back at the last gunshow i attended in Raleigh (NC) they had those same rifles (all the various models they sell now) for about 50-75% of what their getting for them now
i wanted one in the worst way, still wanna get one some day but i's not high on the list, and if not for having to choose between "Really nice/cool rifle or a vehicle to get to work" i'd probably own one now.
having had the experience of shooting examples of both (a Chandler and a comparably built up savage), i will say this a "factory" savage and a Chandler are not on equal footing, but then again the Chandler isn't a "Factory" gun is it? and it certainly won't take $6K (or even $4650.00 listed for a build on a customer supplied receiver) total to make a savage that shoots just as well....
Oktagon, Nice rifle
anybody Else (esp those who nosed around NC gunshows 7-10 years ago) remember when IBA was selling the Chandler for about half that or less??
sorry last time i went to the Iron Brigade website i nearly died.
i am not kidding back at the last gunshow i attended in Raleigh (NC) they had those same rifles (all the various models they sell now) for about 50-75% of what their getting for them now
i wanted one in the worst way, still wanna get one some day but i's not high on the list, and if not for having to choose between "Really nice/cool rifle or a vehicle to get to work" i'd probably own one now.
having had the experience of shooting examples of both (a Chandler and a comparably built up savage), i will say this a "factory" savage and a Chandler are not on equal footing, but then again the Chandler isn't a "Factory" gun is it? and it certainly won't take $6K (or even $4650.00 listed for a build on a customer supplied receiver) total to make a savage that shoots just as well....
GunnySkox
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Hax!
~GnSx
The action feels really slick. I would say that the feel is more similar to nice commercial Mauser action then facory Remington. Not to bash factory Rems, which are very nice. This might be partially due to longer bolt handle, which reduces the force needed to open and close the action.
The trigger is as nice as they get. To the point where there is practically no travel at all, and I don't mean overtravel, I mean TRAVEL. At the same time, when the rifle will not fire even if dropped (ouch!) from significant hight, assuming the safety is on. Speaking of the safety, the lever is extended in such a way that you do not need to change the position of the shooting hand to engage/disangage the feature. The rifle is quite heavy, tipping the scale at 7 kg. It comes in a very nice fitted shock and water proof case with nifty accessories. I opted not to thread the barel (although most people like it done), since I have no intention (possibility) of getting a can for it. It is verboten here.
I have to admit, that my Savage 12BVSS with standard Leupold VXIII 3.5-10x40 (not the tactical one) shoots almost as well (about 0.4MOA), but Savage is less consistent with the same ammo. It has its "good days" and "not so good days" I know it is not me, since I frequently use machine rest to check rifles. Also you can not even compare fit and finish between the guns (rightfully so, you can get 10! Savages for the price of this thing).
I think that one of the reasons why these custom rifles are so expensive is that while lesser priced production guns can be almost as accurate when you compare them on a nice range, the later are not designed to withstand some really rough handling which the former might encounter. Now, obviously it is highly unlikely that many of us ever subject $6000 gun to dirt, mud and other elements, nor will be head, bang or drop it, it is nice to know that the gun was built to resist this abuse.
I collect fine guns, and while most of what I have are handguns (I collect WW1 and WW2 vintage Colts, Walthers, Lugers and Mausers to list a few), as well as upper eshelon hunting rifles, it is nice to have few interesting modern military pieces. So far I got M16 (transferable pre 86 MG), Barret M82A and now Chandler, although technically this is not a real military gun (but where would you get a real Quantico built M40A3?). Well if it is good enough for Blackwater guys it is going to be fine for me.
The trigger is as nice as they get. To the point where there is practically no travel at all, and I don't mean overtravel, I mean TRAVEL. At the same time, when the rifle will not fire even if dropped (ouch!) from significant hight, assuming the safety is on. Speaking of the safety, the lever is extended in such a way that you do not need to change the position of the shooting hand to engage/disangage the feature. The rifle is quite heavy, tipping the scale at 7 kg. It comes in a very nice fitted shock and water proof case with nifty accessories. I opted not to thread the barel (although most people like it done), since I have no intention (possibility) of getting a can for it. It is verboten here.
I have to admit, that my Savage 12BVSS with standard Leupold VXIII 3.5-10x40 (not the tactical one) shoots almost as well (about 0.4MOA), but Savage is less consistent with the same ammo. It has its "good days" and "not so good days" I know it is not me, since I frequently use machine rest to check rifles. Also you can not even compare fit and finish between the guns (rightfully so, you can get 10! Savages for the price of this thing).
I think that one of the reasons why these custom rifles are so expensive is that while lesser priced production guns can be almost as accurate when you compare them on a nice range, the later are not designed to withstand some really rough handling which the former might encounter. Now, obviously it is highly unlikely that many of us ever subject $6000 gun to dirt, mud and other elements, nor will be head, bang or drop it, it is nice to know that the gun was built to resist this abuse.
I collect fine guns, and while most of what I have are handguns (I collect WW1 and WW2 vintage Colts, Walthers, Lugers and Mausers to list a few), as well as upper eshelon hunting rifles, it is nice to have few interesting modern military pieces. So far I got M16 (transferable pre 86 MG), Barret M82A and now Chandler, although technically this is not a real military gun (but where would you get a real Quantico built M40A3?). Well if it is good enough for Blackwater guys it is going to be fine for me.
USSR
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Wow, this site is amazing. Moderators talking about shutting down a thread just because two guys disagree on something in a civil manner. Other poster's saying "Big Deal" (It don't matter if you got the facts right or not). Well, for those of you who like to know the true facts, here is the reply I received from Marty, the owner of Badger Ordnance:
Hi Don,
We do make the base for IBA, We do not braze the rings on, they have that done elsewhere.
Also, we do not make the rings on that base.
We make several items for several other companies, most want to keep it a secret.
Thanks
Marty
So there you have it, the unvarnished truth. To those of you who don't care if a poster get's his facts right - too bad. As for me, I expect to be called on any "disinformation" in a civil manner, and will do the same to others. And as I said before, very nice stick Oktagon.
Don
Hi Don,
We do make the base for IBA, We do not braze the rings on, they have that done elsewhere.
Also, we do not make the rings on that base.
We make several items for several other companies, most want to keep it a secret.
Thanks
Marty
So there you have it, the unvarnished truth. To those of you who don't care if a poster get's his facts right - too bad. As for me, I expect to be called on any "disinformation" in a civil manner, and will do the same to others. And as I said before, very nice stick Oktagon.
Don
"Wow, this site is amazing. Moderators talking about shutting down a thread just because two guys disagree on something in a civil manner. Other poster's saying "Big Deal" (It don't matter if you got the facts right or not). Well, for those of you who like to know the true facts, here is the reply I received from Marty, the owner of Badger Ordnance:
Hi Don,
We do make the base for IBA, We do not braze the rings on, they have that done elsewhere.
Also, we do not make the rings on that base.
We make several items for several other companies, most want to keep it a secret.
Thanks
Marty
So there you have it, the unvarnished truth. To those of you who don't care if a poster get's his facts right - too bad. As for me, I expect to be called on any "disinformation" in a civil manner, and will do the same to others. And as I said before, very nice stick Oktagon."
Hah! Interesting. So IBA most likely buys the rings from somewhere else. They are not Lupold rings, just based on the shape (I have 30mm Lupold rings, and thay are different in many aspects). I might just have to give them a call or e-mail and find out. Thanks for the clarification.
Hi Don,
We do make the base for IBA, We do not braze the rings on, they have that done elsewhere.
Also, we do not make the rings on that base.
We make several items for several other companies, most want to keep it a secret.
Thanks
Marty
So there you have it, the unvarnished truth. To those of you who don't care if a poster get's his facts right - too bad. As for me, I expect to be called on any "disinformation" in a civil manner, and will do the same to others. And as I said before, very nice stick Oktagon."
Hah! Interesting. So IBA most likely buys the rings from somewhere else. They are not Lupold rings, just based on the shape (I have 30mm Lupold rings, and thay are different in many aspects). I might just have to give them a call or e-mail and find out. Thanks for the clarification.
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