Is everyone required to be licensed under the deal.

[Queen_of_Thunder]

This concerns me.

"Under the terms of the Manchin-Toomey deal all background checks would be conducted by federally licensed gun firearm dealers, who would need to verify the validity of a purchaser’s gun license and record that a check was performed."

Is every gun owner going to be required to get a license.

 

[mcdonl]

Only if you buy one. Everyone thinks I'm a fool for thinking I'm done buying if this is the case. But. I'm done buying if this is the case.


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[BoilerUP]

...probably another case of "know-nothing" reporting.

 

[Akita1]

Let's wait to see the tex of the actual bill (which I'm sure will contain other not-yet-released turds) to see what that means. Sound bites taken out of context may not mean what they seem to a reporter. Think I'll just stick to NFA stuff...that's an anal probe anyway!

 

[hso]

Where'd it come from before we start talking about whether it is a misprint/quote/statement from the source?

 

[Diverdave]

QofT
If I understand your question correctly, the sale would have to have a FFL involved.

 

[akv3g4n]

Looks like they reference it in this Washington Post article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-aides-bipartisan-deal-reached-on-gun-background-checks/2013/04/10/fa4fe9a6-a1db-11e2-be47-b44febada3a8_story.html

 

[Akita1]

Here's the text that QoT is referencing (from WP article):

"Under the terms of the Manchin-Toomey deal all background checks would be conducted by federally licensed gun firearm dealers, who would need to verify the validity of a purchaser’s gun license and record that a check was performed. Background checks would need to be completed within three days, except at gun shows, where they would have to be completed within two days for the next four years, and then within 24 hours. In order to avoid processing delays, the FBI would be required to complete background checks requested at gun shows before those requested elsewhere."

Don't think this is right, because then EVERYONE would need a CWL to buy a gun. Again, let's see the bill - they probably mean the validity of ID.

 

[Texan Scott]

These people are like children ... when you tell them NO, you have to tell them NO until they stop wheedling or they learn that enough whinging will get them their way.

We do NOT have to give in, we don't have to give them anything.

Just keep saying NO, I REFUSE.

 

[Cosmoline]

They haven't released the text AFAIK but it sounds like private sales that don't involve "paid advertising" are exempt. I like this LESS than a UBC proposal, since it's setting up a wicked trap for anyone who sends an email, a private message or shoots off a text. Almost every bit of electronic message we send is tied in some respect to paid advertising. This message included. So it would basically limit FTF sales to those deals arranged and agreed to totally off line--and away from gun shows. I don't like it at all. BATFE could very easily zap people with this law.

This bit doesn't even make sense:

who would need to verify the validity of a purchaser’s gun license and record that a check was performed.

Are they suggesting you would need both a NICS check and your own FFL to buy?

If anyone finds the bill text, please post it.

 

[CoRoMo]

Don't worry.

There are hundreds of sheriffs around the country who've promised not to enforce any new gun control laws that are passes in DC. There are also several states that have passed or will be passing anti-gun-control legislation that say any new gun control passed in DC will not be enforced inside those states.

 

[morcey2]

Don't worry.

There are hundreds of sheriffs around the country who've promised not to enforce any new gun control laws that are passes in DC. There are also several states that have passed or will be passing anti-gun-control legislation that say any new gun control passed in DC will not be enforced inside those states.

That is one of the more heartening things that's come out of this whole dog-n-pony show.

 

[Cosmoline]

Don't worry.

No. Worry. The states and sheriffs have ZERO say over this law or its enforcement. They don't matter a bit. It's all handled by BATFE and other federal agencies. I don't want to spend five years in federal prison because I sent an email saying "when are you going to get here?"

 

[CoRoMo]

That was my point.

When we were all reading these threads about the awesome new state that passed the anti-Washington law, I asked how that state could even intervene when the feds enforce a new law.

 

[HankR]

...probably another case of "know-nothing" reporting.

Or "know nothing" legislating. I have talked to senators from eastern states who believe that everybody needs a license to own a gun. If that assumption proves to be wrong, they can always clear up that little loophole in conference (by insisting on FOIDs for subjects of every state). That's assuming, of course, that it isn't already in the proposed bill, which no subjects have deemed worthy to read yet.

 

[FitGunner]

Maybe we will only get to see what is in the bill if it is passed...

 

[Queen_of_Thunder]

QofT
If I understand your question correctly, the sale would have to have a FFL involved.

The source is the Washington Post report on the deal.

I read it as every gun owner had to have a license like Ill. and NYC.

 

[Queen_of_Thunder]

They haven't released the text AFAIK but it sounds like private sales that don't involve "paid advertising" are exempt. I like this LESS than a UBC proposal, since it's setting up a wicked trap for anyone who sends an email, a private message or shoots off a text. Almost every bit of electronic message we send is tied in some respect to paid advertising. This message included. So it would basically limit FTF sales to those deals arranged and agreed to totally off line--and away from gun shows. I don't like it at all. BATFE could very easily zap people with this law.

This bit doesn't even make sense:



Are they suggesting you would need both a NICS check and your own FFL to buy?

If anyone finds the bill text, please post it.

All I've seen are reports of what the bill has in it. Of course we won't know 100% until ghe bill is published.

 

[Nico Testosteros]

The bill can change up until the moment it is passed.