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Is it legal to put a vertical forend grip on a pistol?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Lone_Gunman, Aug 8, 2009.

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  1. Lone_Gunman

    Lone_Gunman Member

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    Or does this creat some type of weapon that has been banned?
     
  2. Trebor

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    No, you can not put a vertical foregrip on a pistol. It creates an AOW.

    (Now, there is a way to do it legally, but it involves making an application with the ATF and paying a tax. But, you can't just do it on your own).
     
  3. M2 Carbine

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    It's a stupid ruling, but no one ever accused the government of having good sense.:rolleyes:

     
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    Why would you ever want to turn your handgun into a deadly weapon by installing a vertical foregrip? :D
     
  5. Lone_Gunman

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    So on a AR or AK pistol, why is a horizonal forend grip not a problem, but a vertical forend grip is?
     
  6. ugaarguy

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    Because the ATF says no VFGs.

    Why is a PGO shotgun an "other firearm" and not subject to the NFA, but it's not a shotgun either, so an FFL can't sell it to a person under 21 years of age. A PGO shotgun with bbl less than 18" is an AOW, not an SBS if it left the factory PGO, and never had a butt stock installed. If it left the factory with a butt stock, or ever had one installed, it's an SBS (PGO or not) if the bbl is shorter than 18". The tax to manufacture is the same $200, but the tax to transfer is only $5 for an AOW v. $200 for an SBS.

    All makes sense right?
     
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    Nobody ever claimed the NFA made any kind of sense. Keep in mind the original NFA bill included a tax stamp for all handguns as well. Since handguns were stricken from the bill before it was passed, the remainder of the legislation seems very arbitrary in what it governs and what it doesn't.
     
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    Uggarguy has it right: It's "Because the ATF said so."

    And General Geoff is also right: "No ever claimed the NFA made any kind of sense."

    Beyond that though, it appears the thinking is that installing a VFG makes a pistol "no longer designed to be fired by one hand." The ATF seems to think that's important, even though we all shoot our pistols with two hands anyway.

    As to why a horizontal foregrip is OK, while a VFG is not, it's because a horizontal foregrip isn't a "foregrip" to the ATF as much as it is a "Barrel Shroud." (Also known as "That shoulder thingy that goes up" ..but that's another discussion).

    Yeah, it doesn't make much sense to me either...
     
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