Is it me or are milled AKs really heavy?

[beerslurpy]

Milled AK + KCI quad rail + 40 round mags full of 154gr SPs = workout for your arms.

I am begining to appreciate the logic behind teensy carbines made of plastic and aluminum.

I think that the energy you spend fighting recoil when shooting is less important than the energy you expend walking around with a heavy rifle and not shooting 99% of the time.

One thing that has occurred to me is that as rifles get lighter, an increasingly significant portion of the weight is ammo. Loaded 40 round AK mags are heavy like bricks. I have been thinking a lot about the feasibility of a 5.7mm SAW. It would allow you to generate a lot more suppressive fire for the same amount of weight and it would still wound armored people out to 200 yards, which isnt much worse than 223.

 

[georgeduz]

yes i good sling always helps,i had to carry for a year,try one of these types,sorry couldnt get pic to download

 

[HPJeep]

Milled AKs are I think almost a pound heavier than stamped receiver versions. Maybe not quite a pound heavier but somewhere around there. You ought to be glad you don't have an AR with all of the rails, laser, light, optics, bayo, rear view mirror, grenade launcher, ionic air purifier, and a dolly setup to pull it behind you. Those suckers are heavy!

 

[clange]

Comparing some numbers quickly and pretty unscientifically on arsenal incs website, the milled guns can be 1 pound heavier or more (15% or so).

A lot of people, myself included, like stamped better for this reason.

 

[gazpacho]

Think about it this way, would you rather get punched by a guy carrying around an M4 all day long, or one carrying the milled AK? People adapt.

 

[Zach S]

I have noticed they're heavier. I also own two thompsons, so most EBRs seem light to me.

 

[Onmilo]

Yeah, milled AKs are about as heavy as an M14, or maybe one of those lightweight wunder carbine M4 variations with all the junk bolted on!

 

[MechAg94]

I have a Vepr so I think my stamped AK may be heavier. But then, I don't have to carry it around all day.

I agree that a good sling is probably in order.

 

[MechAg94]

Hey, does Arsenal, Inc still sell the 5.45 rifles? Their website says they are all out lately.

 

[benEzra]

You ought to be glad you don't have an AR with all of the rails, laser, light, optics, bayo, rear view mirror, grenade launcher, ionic air purifier, and a dolly setup to pull it behind you.

Funniest thing I've read all day.

 

[Father Knows Best]

You ought to be glad you don't have an AR with all of the rails, laser, light, optics, bayo, rear view mirror, grenade launcher, ionic air purifier, and a dolly setup to pull it behind you. Those suckers are heavy!

Don't forget heated seats and cruise control!

 

[clange]

Hey, does Arsenal, Inc still sell the 5.45 rifles? Their website says they are all out lately.

I thought they were, but a few posts over at ak47.net makes it sound like they arent making them anymore. If you want one nows probably the time, before the prices go up.

Edit: Theres only one on gunbroker, and its a good price. http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=43213224 Keep in mind though, its the ban model. You can add a new FSB and muzzle brake later though.

 

[MechAg94]

Can't buy a gun right now. That might change in a few months.

Well, I could buy a gun, but I have been telling myself I will wait a few months at least. I need to buy some .308 surplus and some more 7.5X55 first.

 

[rangerruck]

dependign ont the type and lenght of bbl, they are 1 to 1.5 lbs heavier. milled out form solid steel billets.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

Hey, does Arsenal, Inc still sell the 5.45 rifles? Their website says they are all out lately.

They are advertising them in the latest edition of Shotgun News, the one with the issue on the FN PS90, page 144.

 

[Crosshair]

HPJeep

What, no CD player?

 

[swingset]

Think about it this way, would you rather get punched by a guy carrying around an M4 all day long, or one carrying the milled AK? People adapt.

Hmmm.....let me think about this.

Take a punch from this warrior?

Or take a shot from one of these wimpy looking guys...

 

[Gewehr98]

It's you.

Is it me or are milled AKs really heavy?

The weight difference between my milled Bulgarian SLR-95 and stamped Romanian SAR-1 are negligible. However, I will give the SLR-95 the edge on accuracy, 2" at 100 yards compared to 3" at 100 yards for the SAR-1. (My handloads, I won't run steel cased crap through either rifle.)

 

[Drakejake]

It may be heavier than a stamped, but my milled MAK-90 is a superb rifle. Works for me.

Drakejake

 

[Rambosky]

I take my milled SA93 and do arms curls, upright rowing, behind the neck presses and run at port arms with it. So.......it's no longer heavy.

 

[beerslurpy]

Or take a shot from one of these wimpy looking guys...

That reminds me of this not-yet-produced prequel:

edited pic for bad words and reposted

 

[Crosshair]

Sad, but true beerslurpy.

 

[Father Knows Best]

It may be heavier than a stamped, but my milled MAK-90 is a superb rifle. Works for me.

Drakejake

I feel the same way about my Arsenal SA M-7S. Yes, it's heavy. No, I don't care. It is perfectly reliable, ridiculously accurate for an AK, soft-shooting (the weight helps here!), and it looks awesome. If I had to carry it all day, every day, in rough terrain, I might want to trade it for a stamped version (or an M4!). Since I never have to carry it farther than from my trunk to the bench, I'm perfectly happy with it as-is.

 

[Lupinus]

If I had to carry it all day, every day, in rough terrain, I might want to trade it for a stamped version (or an M4!). Since I never have to carry it farther than from my trunk to the bench, I'm perfectly happy with it as-is.

Yeah, but you would also get used to it.

I don't want to run five miles I'd be a zombie for two weeks, but I know people that do it at least once a week....and enjoy it. I'm not sure if enjoying it is natural but thats another matter.

Point is you get used to it and build up the extra muscle mass needed to do it just as easily and when all we are talking is a few pounds that would likly happen quickly.

 

[MechAg94]

I got used to that extra weight around my gut okay no sweat.