Is old ammo dangerous?

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Hellbore

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My dad has some old 300 Savage ammo that he has had in his gun safe since about 1960.

I wanted to get it out, clean it off, and shoot it. However, he says he doesn't want me handling it because it is dangerous.

He says when ammo gets old, the powder gets unstable and it can spontaneously fire off by itself.

We also have some old shotgun shells from the 50's.

My dad says a lot of paranoid things that are total BS so I don't know whether to believe him or not. He is always coming up with some paranoid "fact" that I later find out isn't true.

Is this one true? What say ye?
 
Unless is has been subjected to extreme temperatures, and/or water & oil, it will be OK to use.

Old 'paper hull' shotgun ammo could be problematic, due to humidity swelling of said paper hulls.

If you do get a 'hangfire' i.e. click but no boom, wait AT LEAST 30 seconds before opening the action. Some foreign made ammo was very bad about that....click . . . .ssssssssssss....BOOM! (Syrian made .30-06 comes to mind)
 
Yes, it is totaly true.

You shouldn't fire it!

If you need help with what to do with it, send it to me and I'll dispose of it for you! :evil:
Also if you have the guns that go with them as well, send it with them. :evil:

you never can be too sure. I'm glad to help in any way. No need to thank me. :D
 
I guess I better send you the brick of 300 savage ammo that he has in there, as well as his Savage model 99... so you can dispose of these 2 dangerous items...

He also has an old bolt-action shotgun for the 40's or so lol...
 
Oh no, it's worse than that.

Just for laughs, let me tell you a litte about my old Dad. It is a wonder he owns guns, knowing how paranoid he is.

When is he camping or hunting or going anywhere he feels could be dangerous at all, he carries his 9mm Ruger P94. However, he carries it without a magazine in the gun!!!

When I first got a holster for my CZ40B he freaked out because I was carrying my gun with a magazine in it. I said "why in the hell would I even carry a gun if it wasn't going to be ready to use? Who says I will have time to draw my gun, pull out a magazine, load the magazine, and cock the gun, all during a potentially stressfull experience?" He won't hear any of it. He thinks I am crazy for carrying a loaded gun. He says if something came up there would be plenty of time to put a magazine in the gun and cock it.

By this same logic, he keeps his guns in the gun safe at all times. I like to keep one hidden under my bed when I'm at home, but I put it away if kids are coming over to visit. He says he bought his pistol for "home defense" but how can it defend anything if it's in the gun safe? If someone broke the door down and did a home invasion, he wouldn't have time to run to the gun safe (which is DOWNSTAIRS and his room is UPSTAIRS) and unlock it with the key (which is hidden in a different room) and get his gun out... then put a magazine in it..etc. etc. etc... The craziness never ends... That's why I sleep with a gun under MY bed, because I'd be our only defense. My dad doesn't know about it, he'd freak out.

When he is driving, every once in a while he taps his brakes, jerking everyone in the car around. I always offer to drive because I hate how he drives. Turns out, he does that on purpose because he is "making sure the brakes work". He has this fear that his brakes are going to suddenly stop working and he won't know about it, so he "checks" them frequently while driving, to make sure they grip tightly. He also keeps his right hand on the emergency brake at all times, unless he is using that hand to shift or something. I also see him pushing the button on the emergency brake constantly, because he is afraid he might not have released it all the way.

When he drinks a can of pop, he leaves about 1/8" in the bottom. He will not ever finish off a can of pop. Why? He is afraid there will be some kind of heavier dirt or other debris in the can, which would settle to the bottom. By not drinking the last 1/8" or so, he is avoiding drinking this sediment.

He gets all upset when I work on one of our cars and have to jack it up. He is convinced the car is going to fall on me, even though I use jack stands as a failsafe, and wheel blocks to keep the vehicle from rolling. Every time he sees me working on a jacked-up car he winces and says "one of these days you are going to kill yourself doing that!" He won't jack a car up at all, he is too afraid.

He also won't trim the lawn any more with our electric trimmer. If I'm not around to do it, it doesn't get done. Why? Because he is convinced that the grass will be slightly moist, and there will somehow be a nick in the extension cord, and electricity will travel from the cord into the grass and electrocute him.

When I got out the 40+ year old 300 savage ammo and was looking at it, he was literally cowering in fear and left the room. He was convinced it was going to explode and was angry that I wouldn't listen to him and stop touching it.

Do you guys know anyone like that?
 
I routinely shoot 8mm ammo form 1946 with no difficulties. But if I was you, I'd try to talk him out of that Savage!
 
I got lots of old ammo lying around, 40 years +....and its as good as the day it was new, don't worry its just fine.
 
Nerotic, gezzzzzzz I'll bet he votes democratic as well... You know they feel his pain.....

Shoot the stuff and have fun doing it. :evil: Hummor your Dad, go out and get some bomb squad stuff. Put it on. Make a big deal about loading it in a ammo safe container. Place it in a overly stuffed trunk (so it doe not move) ((Be sure to have the gun under all the cushions first(so your Dad does not know))). Then make a big issue about driving a great distance out to a special range to dispose of this extremely nasty stuff. (leave him at home, his brake test could set off the ammo,(ha,ha)) Enjoy your time at the range firing that vintage stuff off. Then come home and pretend your exhausted from all the extra procedures you had to follow to get rid of it..... :evil:
 
:scrutiny: If we were talking about grenades, claymore mines, and artillery rounds that'd been sitting out in the elements for how long, I could understand the paranoia. Those do destabilize as things break down.

Small arms ammo, though, uh-uh. A couple of guys have already said they should stuff from the 1940's. I've shot some 8mm Turkish surplus headstamped 1935. One that didn't fire at all, but no hangfires and nothing highly explosive.

Before you go shooting that ammo, though, you might want to consider that it might be collectible. Savage 99's seem to be collectible and I don't see much of anything around chambered for .300Savage. :cool:

FWIW, your dad sounds like my grandmother. :uhoh:
 
When old ammo deterriorates, it may become inert or weak. The only danger is in shooting old ammo that has GREEN corrosion on it. That SEVERLY weakens the brass and it can fail, dumping high pressure gas into the action and some of it may be directed at you. (Ask me how I know!!!!!!!!!)

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FIRE AMMO WITH GREEN CORROSION ON THE CASE ANYWHERE IN ANY AMOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I've been wondering about this subject for quite awhile, but now my hubby just came home with a big box of ammo that an elderly relative gave to him. Some of these are 10 gauge shells with PAPER hulls. They do not appear to have any corrosion, think they would be ok? How old might these be? Thanks!
 
There's a dealer at our local gun show who somehow has a steady supply of WW2 .45. I bought several boxes and once in a while I'll shoot it through my M1911.

It's atleast as reliable as new factory ammo.

Of course I clean the gun as soon as possible.
 
Not too long ago, I shot .45-70 ammo from the 1880's. A couple of duds, but most fired OK and with no problems.

Hellbore, I have edited this to remove a section that I realize was totally inappropriate and should not have been posted. If you have already seen it, I apologize and I apologize to others who may have been offended by the topic.

Jim
 
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