Is teh Ruger 10/22 far superior to the Marlin 60C?

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Ford vs. Chevy is an apt comparison: neither company is perfect, but only one of them required a huge amount of cash to be poured into it to keep it going.:D

I owned both. I sold the 10/22. Out of the box, I believe the Marlin 60 is a better gun. Mine definitely is. (Over time, I have acquired a few other .22s, all "higher-end" than either a stock 10/22 or a Marlin 60, but I still like that Marlin 60. It's a great little gun, despite it being about the cheapest firearm on the US market.)

A stock 10/22 isn't set up for a proper cheek weld with a scope. A stock Marlin 60 is. My stock 10/22 didn't shoot worth a hill of beans; my stock Marlin shoots MOA 5-shot groups with Mini-Mags -- so a scope on the 10/22 was sort of a moot point. Furthermore, my 10/22 was unreliable. There's a reason for all those little aftermarket parts like a replacement extractor: the factory gun leaves a lot to be desired.

Now some people get lucky and have 10/22s that are better than mine was, shoot straighter, can be trusted go through a whole 10-round magazine without a jam, whatever. But mine was plain annoying. Given that the things cost more than ever, I sure wouldn't buy one new, today, because I'd know that I'd be putting a bunch of parts in it right away, to make it a satisfactory rifle.

hub has it about right on the pros and cons.

One more thing to note: every new Marlin 60 with a wood stock has a laminate stock, even if it's not stripe-stained. I believe the camo version has the laminate stock, with camo screened over it. The Marlin's trigger can be given a home trigger job easily, for free, though mine hasn't needed it. I don't mind a trigger that isn't target-light, since I use it for walking-around varmint hunting more than anything else.

For iron-sight shooting, I have other .22s I prefer for the fun-factor. But if you want to put shots on target for cheap, the Marlin 60 is hard to beat. It's definitely my go-to .22 field gun, with a 4X32mm Nikon scope on it, a great scope for $100 including rings.

If you want to be try your hand at custom rifle building, and you don't care about pouring money into a .22 rifle, get a 10/22. If I ever buy another one, it would only be so I can customize it -- and I probably won't ever buy another one. I'd rather buy an Anschutz bolt with that money -- or a CZ for a lot less -- and have a better rifle for accuracy shooting. With expensive target ammo, semiauto is just a cleaning hassle, whereas a bolt is a pleasure to maintain. You're not going to put 500 rounds through it in an hour, anyway.:)

If I ever get into competition that requires a .22 semiauto, I'm with Uncle Mike 100%:
...and check out the Magnum Research 22LR auto loader.

It's based on the 10/22 design, but built right to start with. All told, you get more for your money than if you buy a Ruger and add everything yourself.

One more note, re someone who has a 30-year-old 10/22 that has always worked well. I'm not surprised. The old ones I've played with seem to be more reliable and perhaps more accurate on average. Objectively, the recent ones, with painted receivers and now with plastic trigger groups, are not built to the same standards as the old anodized, walnut-stocked guns.
 
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you can get 2 marlins, new or used, for the cost of a ruger 10.22, and both will outshoot, and be more reliable, than the ruger, all day long.
 
In discussion of the relative merits of .22RF autoladers, such as here, I often wonder why the TC R-55 is never, or seldom, mentioned. Any reason?
 
I have a 10/22 with a 20" stainless standard-profile barrel and love it. I can chew a dime-sized hole out of a target at 50 yards, have never once had a misfeed or a failure to fire/extract/eject. It's also bone stock with the exception of the Nikon glass atop it. A buddy of mine has an 18" heavy barreled Marlin 60. He can do just as much with his as I can do with mine and both of us swear by our own. Both are great rifles with great track records.

As far as the plastic trigger housing, www.gunblast.com did a write-up on them, including some testing done at the Ruger factory to show the benefits of using them in lieu of the old forged aluminum housings, like mine. Ruger makes a pretty good argument for the change. Like was posted in another thread: Glock uses composite and it's innovative. Ruger uses it and it's crap. It's a trigger housing on a fairly inexpensive rifle. Not as big a deal as eveyone makes it out to be. Read the review and make your own decision.
 
I have a 10/22 with a 20" stainless standard-profile barrel and love it.

AFAIK that's the gun with no barrel band and a stock that fits better with a scope than the standard 10/22. If you do get a 10/22, get one of those.:)

Not as big a deal as eveyone makes it out to be.

That may be, but the standard gun has gone up in price, and gone down in quality, plastic trigger group or no. Look at an old standard 10/22, closely sometime.:) Furthermore, there were never any problems reported with the aluminum trigger group, over four decades and millions of guns. So the notion that replacing it with a plastic trigger group is an "improvement" from the customer's perspective is funny. At best, it's break-even.
 
I like the older model 10/22s (like my own), but with the degrading quality (as good as the plastic may be, I like the aluminum much better) and the rising price of the Ruger, I would buy something else unless I wanted to customize it. That said, the Marlins have went downhill as well since they discontinued the model with LRBHO and full length magazine tube. I would search for one of these models (built in mid-'80's). I really like the Stevens Model 87D, due to its unusual (but well thought-out) design and accuracy (at least mine is), but good luck finding one as they haven't been built in decades. Honestly I don't know of any autoloading .22LR that doesn't cost a fortune or is as good as some of the older models, but between the two, the Marlin gets my vote.

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I have a Model 60 built within the last few years and it has LRBHO. If they ever dropped the feature, they put it back a while ago. (The mag will take one additional round if you close the bolt before loading the gun BTW.)
 
I believe the Model 60 has had a bolt hold open lever since 1984. I will have to go out to the shop to verify that or someone else may know.
 
I believe the Model 60 has had a bolt hold open lever since 1984.
Jimmy that sounds about right.

AB, they no longer have the full length magazine tube, and the model with both LRBHO and the full magazine was only produced for a few years in the mid-'80s (I believe it was discontinued in 1989).

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I have owned and shot plenty of both, and both have plenty of positives. Out of the box I would say the Marlin is typically more accurate and reliable, but the Ruger is easily customizable (even w/o smithing skills) and can be made into a real tack driver.

When I am asked for recommendations I always say that if you just want to shoot (roll cans, kill small game or the like), then get the Marlin, you want to create a custom rifle capable of match accuracy, or a flashy tricked out toy then get the Ruger.
 
They have a full-length magazine tube, also -- for their barrel length. What they don't have is the longer barrel they used to have.

I couldn't care less about the barrel length, given the accuracy of mine, and 15 rounds has proven to be sufficient. The thing works, and it works a good deal better than I'd expect for the price. It does its part to help keep the local whistlepig population in check, it shoots nickel-sized groups at 50 yards instead of baseball-sized groups, and it doesn't stovepipe every few rounds like the Ruger did.

If I want a longer barrel and mag, I can always shoot the 39A with a 24" heavy barrel. If I want more rounds, there's the AR upper with Black Dog magazines...:D

But here, we're comparing the current 60 to the current 10/22...:)
 
They have a full-length magazine tube, also -- for their barrel length. What they don't have is the longer barrel they used to have.
That is what I am referring to, personally I couldn't care less about the decreased bbl length, the lesser capacity (which is due to the shorter bbl length) is the issue for me.

But here, we're comparing the current 60 to the current 10/22...
That is why I voted for the Marlin...otherwise it would be a tougher decision.

:)
 
I never really liked either one honestly. But put a gun to my head (no pun intended) and I'd take the Ruger. I think both are horrible in stock configuration, but I can at least change the Ruger...
 
We should keep this gun related and not say things like Ford vs Chevy because I will be at the gun store trying to but an old Chevy gun. I would also not buy either of them if they were manufactured recently by Ford or GM.
 
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