Is the Remington 597 now superior to the Ruger 10/22?

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I have a 597 heavy barrel. There is no need to put aftermarket parts
into it. It is deadly accurate, never jams and has a laminated wood stock.
Really nice gun.

Zeke
 
Customer brought a 597 in yesterday. Barrel is crooked in receiver.
Burris Posiline rings will rescue it.
 
It now wears a VX3 2.5-8X (will get sent back for 50 yd parallax correction).
Volq hammer and Kidd buffer.
1967 factory checkered.

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Have had a few .22 rifles......572, 552, 581, 541T-HB, 511, 121 several std and sp/dsp 10/22 and Sav/Anschutz 64 and 141 and TC Contender.

Of all, the 141 was my fave bolt gun, and the old FG sporter my fave non bolt rig.
 
Front bag, scope backed off to 6X (50 yds, won't focus at 8x ).
It puts CCI Blazer into half an inch (5 shots).
Won't win any contests that way, but plenty good enough to zing squirrels in the head (I rarely shoot critters in the head- uglies them up and that eye stuff bothers me). Nope, I'll zip 'em behind the shoulder or in the neck.

Dunno round count. Original owner shot it quite a bit.

Proly took close to 50 yrs to get it "broke in" LOL.
 
CraigC said:
Take a deep breath, it'll be alright. Unlike yourself, I don't have to Google everything to respond to a post. I didn't say they were NEVER made with a low comb stock, because I know they did. I wished I had looked for an older used rifle after I bought mine. What I said is that they currently do not and have not for a good many years. At least 20, by my count. Forgive me for being under the impression we were talking about new guns.

I'm awaiting proof that Ruger painted barrels.

It's rather comical that you would tout the 597 as having better finishes and deride the Ruger for having cheap finishes.

1. Ruger has always done a brushed polish on their guns and only had a couple of years where they did bluing over a blasted finish. The 597 has ALWAYS been matte blued.

2. Ruger anodized their receivers until 1968 and from that point on, they did a Teflon coating. Except for the couple years when they did a wrinkle finish. Remington has also ALWAYS used some sort of spray on coating. Ruger's stainless guns still have a clear anodized receiver.

3. Ruger changed to a polymer trigger housing only a few years ago. The 597 has ALWAYS had a plastic trigger housing and the early magazines were cheap ABS plastic.
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I suspect you know what you can do with your rude "take a breath comment." You should do some research (including using Google to search the web) before posting as it might well help you avoid inaccuracies.

1. You were wrong about the Remington 552/572 stocks. Interesting how you didn't recognize that fact.

2. Like it or not, Ruger did paint/coat some barrels.

3. I never mentioned trigger housings -- metal or polymer. Not sure why you brought it up?
 
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I suspect you know what you can do with your rude "take a breath comment." You should do some research (including using Google to search the web) before posting as it might well help you avoid inaccuracies.
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That's the nice thing about being educated on a subject, you don't have to Google everything to find the answer. :rolleyes:


1. You were wrong about the Remington 552/572 stocks. Interesting how you didn't recognize that fact.

2. Like it or not, Ruger did paint/coat some barrels.

3. I never mentioned trigger housings -- metal or polymer. Not sure why you brought it up?
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No I wasn't. Remington does not and has not offered a low comb for the 552/572 in at least 20yrs and this thread was about new guns.

No they didn't and you can't prove they did.

Oh really? From the OP:

"At the same time Ruger seems to be cost-reducing the 10/22 more and more. More plastic parts, paint rather than bluing, etc."

Then which plastic parts were you referring to???
 
Ruger did paint some barrels. Maybe 2 yrs?
Heck, Remington did a matte finish on 572/552 for a spell.
WTH were they thinking?

I thought somewhere I read that the alloy trigger housings on 10/22s sometimes meant parts needed fitted. The switch to plastic got drop in, and no added colorizing process.

MIM extractors supposedly problematic. Magazine release is now plastic IIRC.
 
552/572 has been high comb for quite a while.
Reason why I sold my pre 68 572........stock sucked for scope (had Leupold 4x compact on it). Was a hoot with CBs.

Pops has a minty high comb model. Prices IMHO have gone beyond silly on them. LOL, I paid $90 for a 552A (walnut no frills) guy bought from Ayr Way
(unfired, in box). I shot it for a couple yrs, popped a couple of chucks and sold it for a fair profit.
 
Hookeye said:
552/572 has been high comb for quite a while.
Reason why I sold my pre 68 572........stock sucked for scope (had Leupold 4x compact on it). Was a hoot with CBs.

Pops has a minty high comb model. Prices IMHO have gone beyond silly on them. LOL, I paid $90 for a 552A (walnut no frills) guy bought from Ayr Way
(unfired, in box). I shot it for a couple yrs, popped a couple of chucks and sold it for a fair profit.
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I'm not sure why Remington has the 552/572 priced so high? It's almost as if they're using the Ruger model of pricing... ;) I'm not sure that I would buy either today brand new, but both are heads and shoulders above the10/22.
 
Hookeye said:
Ruger did paint some barrels. Maybe 2 yrs?
Heck, Remington did a matte finish on 572/552 for a spell.
WTH were they thinking?

I thought somewhere I read that the alloy trigger housings on 10/22s sometimes meant parts needed fitted. The switch to plastic got drop in, and no added colorizing process.

MIM extractors supposedly problematic. Magazine release is now plastic IIRC.
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I think you're right -- it was for a fairly short time. My friend bought 4 of them at Big 5 for he and his kids. When I saw them I thought "what the heck"?

I would bet money that customers/distributors complained and Ruger did an about face.
 
CraigC said:
That's the nice thing about being educated on a subject, you don't have to Google everything to find the answer.
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You clearly aren't "educated" on the different stocks which have been available on the Remington 552/572 (see proof above) and on the painting of Ruger 10/22 barrels.

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No I wasn't. Remington does not and has not offered a low comb for the 552/572 in at least 20yrs and this thread was about new guns.
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Whoa! Now you're trying to wiggle out of the Remington 552/572 butt stock discussion by trying to redefine the question? That's terribly bad form. Please recall your original quote:

CraigC said:
...Wrong again. The 552 and 572 have come with high comb stocks ONLY for as long as I can remember. Of course, I've had a 572 for nearly 20yrs as well.
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You are wrong. Given a lack of real-world knowledge on this subject, you should have Googled it or consulted someone with the knowledge.

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Oh really? From the OP:

"At the same time Ruger seems to be cost-reducing the 10/22 more and more. More plastic parts, paint rather than bluing, etc."

Then which plastic parts were you referring to???
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Not the trigger housing.
 
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Actually, you're wrong about the stocks because you said they offer both. They do not, they went from the low comb to the Monte Carlo at least 20yrs ago. I never said what you're accusing me of saying and Ruger never painted a barrel. There's just a slew of internet experts like yourself, who learned everything they know from Google and can't tell matte bluing from paint.

If they exist, it should be easy to prove. :rolleyes:
 
It's been a while, but I saw one of the rifles in question and it didn't look like any bluing Id seen before. Indeed it looked painted. Didn't buy it to scrape and check.

Pretty easy for me to believe it was painted.
 
Guess i havent run across any of that era 10/22s. I did a little google foo as well and ran across post suggesting they were some that were painted, didnt get any timeline tho.
I have seen a matte barreled one, but it didnt look or feel like any form of coating, just like matte bluing.
 
I had a first edition Charger, and it was blued.
The rifle bbls in question had a very black and slightly glossy finish............like paint.
Did not have the luster of even a crappy Remington 870/110 blue of the 80's ;)

For all that is 10/22 I'd suggest posting this barrel painting question on rimfirecentral.com
 
CraigC said:
Actually, you're wrong about the stocks because you said they offer both. They do not, they went from the low comb to the Monte Carlo at least 20yrs ago. I never said what you're accusing me of saying and Ruger never painted a barrel. There's just a slew of internet experts like yourself, who learned everything they know from Google and can't tell matte bluing from paint.

If they exist, it should be easy to prove.
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You're tap-dancing now. It's very clear you were ignorant of the standard stocks (too bad you didn't Google it) when you made your initial posting. Keep going, you're just digging yourself in deeper.
 
Hookeye said:
It's been a while, but I saw one of the rifles in question and it didn't look like any bluing Id seen before. Indeed it looked painted. Didn't buy it to scrape and check.

Pretty easy for me to believe it was painted.
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I agree It would be cheaper (fewer process steps, less time) and it's clear that Ruger is focused on cost reduction. I suspect they heard some fairly stiff feedback from their distributors and other customers.

To some the painted 10/22 don't exist -- just like the Remington 552/572's with standard stocks. " :rolleyes: "
 
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