Is there another "Savage" caliber?

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I would be perfectly happy if nobody ever released a totaly new cartridge ever again. I think we have the field covered and all the new stuff just pushes more old stuff that did the same thing into obsolescence.
Seems like introducing a new cartridge is like women's shoes. All you gotta do is make a new one and give it to the magazine writers first.
They'll make such a big splash (and they NEVER met one they didn't like) pretty soon enough girls -- er, interested buyers heh heh -- will buy it.
Most won't buy, but you'll sell enough to make some real good money. Can't lose.
 
I'm a lot more prone to bet one of 3 issues if a grown woman "won't touch" a .308win: 1) rifle fitment issue, 2) lack of proper recoil management training, and/or 3) a simple mental fear of recoil.

My 125lb wife runs a fleet of rifles, including a Marlin 1895 guide gun, Ruger Hawkeyes in 7RM, 338wm, and 416Ruger, 300wsm and 338win mag Savages, and a .308win AR-10/LR308, among others at the lower end of the spectrum. She's shot all of my .375 H&H's, 416Rigby, 458wm, and 458lott rifles as well. She's telling me right now she's shot my CZ 505 Gibbs, but I don't recall when that would have been. My 140lb sister shoots a .300wm and a .338wm, my mother shoots a .30-06. My sis-in-law, who I'd peg at 125-130, shoots an 18" 308win.

Outside of my own family, I've instructed women and girls in rifle courses and hunter's safety education courses for many years, the 308win is a very common cartridge selected by their husbands, dads, boyfriends, etc to push on women, and I have yet to have a woman I couldn't coach to shoot it comfortably - pending a well fit stock.

But if the rifle doesn't fit, or the shooter doesn't know how to manage recoil properly, or if the shooter is simply scared of recoil because someone planted an idea in their head, then even a lowly 308win will be rough.
Fitment is HUGE!! Growing up, I was much more comfortable with the .300 Sav than the .243 and now all my kids shoot is .223-243-260 (and the boss lady) the .250 savage has a decent following and thanks to @LoonWulf the .250AI has piqued my interest (quarter bores bore me in general) but someday after I get my 6.5 fix, I'll add at LEAST one or two .300 m99s to the safe!
 
I suppose a guy should give Savage the tip-of-the-hat they're partially due for the 22-250 Remington... That "250" part is from the 250-3000 Savage.
 
I'm a lot more prone to bet one of 3 issues if a grown woman "won't touch" a .308win: 1) rifle fitment issue, 2) lack of proper recoil management training, and/or 3) a simple mental fear of recoil.

Have fun trying to sell those theories to women who shoot less than 50 shots/year.

The 7-30 waters is a little less than the 7x57, and it's a commercial round, though the rim may limit you to Contenders and lever actions.

Yea, something along those lines. Would be a great deer gun and have the recoil of a 7.62x39 which is completely manageable for just about anyone.
 
fyi the ''.22 hi-power'' is still in light useage in europe, where it is known as the 5.6×52mmR. my grandpa had a Savage 99 in .22 hi-power, but likemany others found, it was a notorious wounder, and he upgraded to a Remington 721 in .270 when finances allowed
 
I have a combination gun, chambered 22 Hi-power and 12ga...

It shoots pretty good, I swage my own jacketed bullets to hand load in it... GOOD bullets = good cartridge!!

DM
 
I'm a lot more prone to bet one of 3 issues if a grown woman "won't touch" a .308win: 1) rifle fitment issue, 2) lack of proper recoil management training, and/or 3) a simple mental fear of recoil.
Agreed. I haven't worked my daughters into shooting rifles yet; I started them on handguns, and they seemed to like the .45 and .357 best (and they also shot .22LR and 9mm). Then I took them to the skeet range. Only guns I took were both 12 gauge. I warned them about recoil, showed them how to mount and hold the gun tight to the shoulder. 1st shot each, they both said, "Wow", and after that they knew what to expect. They both want to learn to shoot my .308's. Oh, they're both princesses, usually, and both are petite build.
 
Not saying it can't be done gents. That's not the point. I can shoot .416 Rigbys too. Doesn't mean I enjoy it. We can spend all day talking about exceptions.

There is a reason the 30-30 is still such a popular deer caliber. Because that's about as much recoil as casual shooters want to tolerate for very long. And frankly, most hunters fall in the "casual shooter" category.
 
.22LR
9mm
45acp
556/223
762X39 OR 300BLK
308 OR 30-06
338 Lapua
.50 BMG

if you dont get the job done with those calibers... call in the artillery or air-strike.
 
You could also say the 300 savage was the inspiration for the 308 winchester. I remember reading that the first lot of cases that winchester made during development were made from fireforming 300 savage cases and the design evolved from there. They have the same base to shoulder length but the 308 just has a shallower shoulder and longer neck, and the 308 has slightly less taper. I guess you would have to give co credit to the 30-06 and 300 savage as being its parent case.
 
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