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Wow, my guide also confirms that the date was January of 1993. I find it hard to believe that the gun sat on the shelf for more than 10 years!

You've got a lot of questions to ask to the dealer.

Two signs of trouble are: too much wear for a "new" gun and a serial number that dates back more than 10 years.
 
If it's a refurb, it's not necessarily a bad thing, but this gun was sold to wenD with an understanding that it was new, not an "as new" factory refurb. So I must assume that a new gun price was paid for it. Very unlikely (to the point of near impossibility) that this gun just sat around for 10 years, G22's are one of Glocks most popular models. Very big with police agencies.
 
Man, this sucks.....I can't believe it's that old...I would have never thought this would happen at a reputable gun shop....if it turns out that I get bad news I will post their name on here so no one else has to do deal with this...

thanks again for all the insight, although it seems the news keeps getting worse :(
 
new gun price indeed, it was 499 before tax and fees

don't think it had finger grips, but i actually can't remember-i only got to play w/ it for an hour or two and then it went back to the shop

funny that the shop owner wanted to refund my money (because i wasn't "the type of person he wanted to sell a gun to") as opposed to send back to glock....maybe he realized i was going to be a pain in the a*&

perhaps i shouldve taken that offer and then taken my business elsewhere
 
.....because i wasn't "the type of person he wanted to sell a gun to"
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That remark is incredibly insulting. What type of person are you? Somebody who expects to get what he paid for? Someone who expects a new gun to actually be new? Oh man, you're a hard customer to please! (OK, sarcasm off). He'll probably offer to refund your money again once the pistol comes back and once you start asking questions such as why he was selling a refurb as a new gun and so forth (if he's a Glock stocking dealer, you could complain loudly to Glock after you've finished your business with this guy). Get your money back and find somebody who wants your business. I'm a bit of a difficult customer to please, my favorite local shop knows this and has more than once gone the extra distance for me. The result? They know I'll be back and they know that the amount of money they make off me more than offsets the minor pain in the ass I can be. So, if they have something I like, I buy it from them and not bother with the guy down the street offering it for $10 less. Everybody else just sees me windowshop, this shop actually sees my money.
 
I don't care whether he already shipped the gun to Glock of not, I'd get a FULL refund!!!!!

I'd call his hand on this gun.....would tell him that the serial number puts it at being 10 years old (I'd stretch the truth and tell him I called Glock) as does the grip style of the gun. I'd tell him that you are getting GLOCK involved and the Better Business Bureau and possibly the ATF and the local newspaper (dealer selling USED as NIB guns). I'd include the word "fraud" several times. He'll probably call you everything but blue and tell you what an idiot you are and then thrown your money in your face and tell you to never come back to his shop (the guilty always act that way). While there certainly are guns that have been around for years that are NIB, it's hard to believe a Glock 22 is one of them. NIB "infers" ORIGINAL RETAIL OWNER, not that it is in NEW condition, etc. (LNIB as ANIB would be more appropriate for a previously owner but in new condition gun). There was a dealer that took a trade of mine and later advertised it for sale as NIB with FULL manufacturer warranty (I had a friend verify the serial number on the gun and it WAS my traded gun). Well I had never shot it but I was the original buyer and had even registered it with H&K....it was NOT NIB & while H&K may have serviced it under warranty they may very well not have (it was a USP EXPERT). Although the gun probably would never need warranty service, it's still deceptive and dishonest to sell a USED gun as NIB. I sent him an email concerning his ad and he didn't respond. So I "spread the word" that I believed this dealer sold USED guns as NIB based on my experience.

Good luck with your Glock.....these types of things just BITE!!!!!!
 
Man, this sucks.....I can't believe it's that old...I would have never thought this would happen at a reputable gun shop....if it turns out that I get bad news I will post their name on here so no one else has to do deal with this...
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To heck with that!!
I'd give the ATF a call on monday. Tell them what has happened and have them pay your shop a little visit!!! :evil:

It is against the law for an FFL holder to sell a used gun as new!!! :what:
 
glock story from BG

Merry Christmas to everyone! I want to tell you a story of a brand new!!! Glock, purchased not so far ago here in Bulgaria: A local police officer gets a loan from the bank to purchase a new Glock. After all the paperwork done, he finaly takes the gun - model G17 - he is very happy (buying such a gun is something expencive round here) he celebrates the new toy with his colegues in the police stacion. To make it short - this guy accidently drops his gun from about 1 meter to a concrete floor - the result is nasty crack on the left side of the slide, just where the cut for the frame rails begines (back of the gun). The crack is about 1 cm. long. I have seen the gun and the crack looks wery serious. With all that stuff happening to new Glocks, is there something that I missed? Glocks being tough as a rock, they will last for ever, you are safe with them?...... I dont know about you, but now I am pretty scared shooting one of these. Too many "not to worry about" problems with that gun.
 
this guy accidently drops his gun from about 1 meter to a concrete floor
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That would not be a Glock issue because you can take any gun, drop it and the same thing could happen. If you took any other gun, dropped it a meter and it always came out fine, that would be a different story but I don't forsee that being possible.

Man, that Glock must be expensive if you have to take a loan out for it! ;) What do you have to do to buy a house or a car? :neener:
 
this is not funny

Actualy to buy a house is very difficult here. We do work hard. I work hard. I earn my money. Do not make fun of me, because you don't know me. I share a problem with you and you laugh at me. This is something that a child would do. I was thinking - these man could help, but I was wrong. To make fun of people just because they get little money is stupid. Have a nice day.
 
Actualy to buy a house is very difficult here. We do work hard. I work hard. I earn my money. Do not make fun of me, because you don't know me. I share a problem with you and you laugh at me. This is something that a child would do. I was thinking - these man could help, but I was wrong. To make fun of people just because they get little money is stupid. Have a nice day.
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It was a joke, hence the :neener:
 
....big fat sigh....

wish i could buy you all a beer, thanks for the posts, will deal with this on monday and then start looking for a new gun shop....
 
FWIW, I wish my information about the age of your gun was incorrect, but given the other facts available to us, it looks like this wasn't a new gun. My own G22 checks out to be 9/92 and this was the date I was given using the serial number research service at Glockmeister. I hope you can get some kind of settlement on this issue (like getting your money back). It really boils my blood to see a new gun owner burned by a dealer. :cuss:
 
Yes, it was unfortunate..and very discouraging.

Took off work today and went to the shop, closed on Mondays....
 
It sounds like you got ripped off. If I were you, I would contact everyone I could including your local BBB and the ATF. Is this shop owned by the guy you dealt with? If not I would definitely seek the owner and let him know what has happened.


The peening marks are caused by the polymer frame flexing under recoil and allowing the locking block to make contact with the underside of the slide. Every Glock I have ever ownwed (10+) has done this to one degree or another. The .40's seem to do it worse than other calibers due to the caliber/recoil to size ratio.


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Got a full refund today!

Yay! Have the money back to take it elsewhere...

Yes, Turner, was dealing with the OWNER of the shop....uggh, glad it's over. Going to find a local FFL and order online and have it shipped...

Best wishes to everyone and thanks again
 
Edmond, no - it was a bit tense but i think he was glad to get me off his back, i told him i discovered the gun was 11 years old and he seemed a bit irked that i bothered to check....won't ever go in there again
 
i told him i discovered the gun was 11 years old and he seemed a bit irked that i bothered to check
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I don't blame you for not wanting to go in there again, I wouldn't. Good gun shops are hard to come by but they are out there. We don't have a good gunshop where I am, south Chicago suburbs. There is a nice one near Joliet but their prices are just too expensive.

A lack of good gunshops has made me buy my stuff online. Even stuff like ammo, if you buy it in bulk online, it's not too bad of a deal. Better yet, start reloading.
 
For when you get a newer one :)

I have a Glock 24P with about 7000 rounds through it. The mark is made from where the slide stop rubs when the gun is fired. Mine has an identical mark on the other side from the trigger bar (I think). The divits are pretty heathy at this point but they stoped getting worse after 1000 rounds or so and had cut enough clearance for themselves. It's never effected functionality.

Glock will return it saying it's fine. If any upgrades are due on your gun they'll perform them while they have it. Shoot with confidence. They scared me at first to.
 
WenD

where in CA are you located in? I can recommend a great gunshop in Socal if you're around my area. Also, if you could, PM the gunshop that you used to buy the Glock 22.

The slide peening is normal, especially for .40 cal Glocks. But there should not be any on a "new" gun.

I just picked up a used G23 today (compact .40) with approx. 1000 rds. My Glock shows no signs of slide peening, but honestly I wouldn't be worried if there was any.

Read up on this thread. It might help answer some questions for you.

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=316697&highlight=slide+AND+peening

good luck.
 
In the beautiful (but rainy) SF bay area...thanks but think I found someone w/ FFL to receive it for me from an online site...

What are people's thought on my posting the name of the place?
 
As far as posting it goes, if they're not totally honest with their product, how can you trust them with the paperwork? Or even the legality of the guns themselves? I wouldn't want the ATF knocking on my door because of something these guys did, if even by accident. I think you should get the word out.

You're probably not the 1st, and probably won't be the last, person these guys try to screw over. Dishonesty or incompetance, it doesn't really matter, I still would think the public should know.
 
In the beautiful (but rainy) SF bay area...thanks but think I found someone w/ FFL to receive it for me from an online site...
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Where are you planning on ordering it from? Are you going to order a new or a used one? If used, take a look at CDNN Investments' catalog, nice low prices, you could almost get two!
 
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