Is this Remington Rand 1911A1 authentic?
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NIGHTLORD40K
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Looks correct to me. Nice gun.
243winxb
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The word "SYRACUSE" looks funny to me? The AC letters seem to sit lower. Like a hand stamp was used?
The photo could be better and i am no expert.. But did own a Remington Rand, Ithaca and Colt years ago.
My Remington Rand was modified for Bullseye competitions. I sold it to a guy that was going to restore it.
Internet examples.
The photo could be better and i am no expert.. But did own a Remington Rand, Ithaca and Colt years ago.
My Remington Rand was modified for Bullseye competitions. I sold it to a guy that was going to restore it.
Internet examples.
NIGHTLORD40K
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Ya, perhaps. Could just be the relatively low resolution pics, too. The Ordnance Dept. crossed cannon stamp is a little suspiscious as well because it is so well defined. Most examples I see are pretty lightly ( and incompletely) struck.
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Saw that also, it has been known that people have faked cartouche on wood stocks like Garand, but that is wood seems unlikely that someone could fake markings on metal? The finish looks too good also almost as if someone dipped it but then again could be a real deal Rand I'm just not sure. What kind of slide or frame would come unmarked to allow fake marks anyway? If it was a $400 armscorp or Springfield armory their marks would have to covered or removed also.
Yes its done routinely. The difference between hundreds of dollars and thousands and thousands is enough for fakes to be rampant in the M1911 world.
Exercise caution when looking at dropping serious $$.
Jim Watson
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That is the prettiest ordnance stamp I ever saw.
There are a lot of bogus boxes out there.
As tex said
https://forums.1911forum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=30
There are a lot of bogus boxes out there.
As tex said
https://forums.1911forum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=30
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I decided to pass on it here is the listing
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/821413610
Just doesn't seem right to me. He is asking $1800.00 which is low for what is suppose to be a high end 1911A1.
Either it is genuine which I wouldn't shoot it and treat it as a safe queen or it is fake of some sort.
I'm ready to draw out up to $2000.00 or so out of the saving account and get one and because I only want one to fill the itch that I can show off but also shoot sparingly and because I have certain rules.
1 Must be 80% to 85% or so condition, preferably a rearsenaled one that did not see much use after ,that will shoot decent but not a loose rattle shaker and not a highly collectible that will turn into a safe queen because I want to shoot 50 to 100 rounds or so in it per year, I don't plan on shooting it that much.
2 prefer a Remington Rand because it is the most common thus the least expensive
3 can't be a mix master must be Remington slide and frame
4 not interested in a CMP I want to see what I'm buying and expect to pay more because, I only want one and don't want to be disappointed and I'm not willing to wait months on a luck of the draw
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/821413610
Just doesn't seem right to me. He is asking $1800.00 which is low for what is suppose to be a high end 1911A1.
Either it is genuine which I wouldn't shoot it and treat it as a safe queen or it is fake of some sort.
I'm ready to draw out up to $2000.00 or so out of the saving account and get one and because I only want one to fill the itch that I can show off but also shoot sparingly and because I have certain rules.
1 Must be 80% to 85% or so condition, preferably a rearsenaled one that did not see much use after ,that will shoot decent but not a loose rattle shaker and not a highly collectible that will turn into a safe queen because I want to shoot 50 to 100 rounds or so in it per year, I don't plan on shooting it that much.
2 prefer a Remington Rand because it is the most common thus the least expensive
3 can't be a mix master must be Remington slide and frame
4 not interested in a CMP I want to see what I'm buying and expect to pay more because, I only want one and don't want to be disappointed and I'm not willing to wait months on a luck of the draw
NIGHTLORD40K
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Well, some of the CMP guns are sure to be for sale on the secondary market by now. Might be able to find one with papers.
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These guns were made for the war effort ~75 years ago. Workers (mostly women) who were making them had been been on the bread line just a short time before. The pistols and other armaments were turned out at a rate which was unbelievable by today's standards. Things were made in hours or days rather than weeks or months. At that rate it was expected that many flaws were accepted as long as the end product functioned properly.
Given the above circumstances one has to decide whether it is feasible that some pieces were produced with almost no imperfections. One also has to wrap his mind around the fact that this weapon was probably never issued in order for it to be in such great shape ... and at such a 'reasonable' price.
Given the above circumstances one has to decide whether it is feasible that some pieces were produced with almost no imperfections. One also has to wrap his mind around the fact that this weapon was probably never issued in order for it to be in such great shape ... and at such a 'reasonable' price.
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