is this silenced ruger .22 legal?

[cajun47]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u_odxtH0_Cw

they say suppressed so maybe its not a silenced handgun. if this is legal where can i find the parts?

 

[Valkman]

Depends where you live - full auto and supressors are legal here. I have a FA Uzi, supressor and .22 kit but a Ruger like that would be nice.

 

[MatthewVanitas]

I'm going to a dealer tomorrow to check out an integrally suppressed Ruger MkII.

Runs $550 for the conversion, and I have to buy a $200 tax stamp from the Feds. Have to mail the feds my check, and fingerprints, passport photos, and a letter from my county sherrif saying that he doesn't mind if I buy one.

So yes, it is doable, in most states. In TX, it's actually easier to buy a suppressor than it is to buy a revolver in NYC.

-MV

P.S.: "suppressor" and "silencer" mean the same thing. Most folks prefer "suppressor" since it doesn't literally make the gun silent, just makes it quieter. A .22 gets pretty darn quiet, but a suppressed .223 or a .45 is still not literally "silent".

 

[gunsmith]

how could we possibly give you an answer without knowing what State you live in?

are you in NJ? if so you're probably in violation of the law right now for thinking about suppressors ...If you're in NV you pays yer tax and pick it up in a jiffy.

 

[bthest86]

Description of the video says its in the Philippines.

 

[ScottsGT]

"and a letter from my county sherrif saying that he doesn't mind if I buy one"

This is the problem. The CLEO's think we are asking permission from them, while in actuality, they are signing off stating that they know we are purchasing one. We don't need their permission, and our local sherrif got a call from the SC Attorney General to correct this mistake a few years back.

 

[MatthewVanitas]

This is the problem. The CLEO's think we are asking permission from them, while in actuality, they are signing off stating that they know we are purchasing one. We don't need their permission, and our local sherrif got a call from the SC Attorney General to correct this mistake a few years back.

Fair enough, I'm pretty new to the process.

Since I've been told that the Austin PD chief won't even consider signing, I'd consider it to be a "permission" document in practical application.

Fortunately, I hear that our sherrif will sign for anyone who's legally able to buy one.

-MV

 

[wdlsguy]

It isn't a letter from your sheriff, it's his / her signature on the back of your Form 4.

 

[Keith Wheeler]

It isn't a letter from your sheriff, it's his / her signature on the back of your Form 4.

Or Form 1, if you're making your own. And this signature is only required if you are making for/transferring to a private individual. If your LLC or Trust is the maker/transferor, no CLEO sig is required.

Edited to add:

There are some jurisdictions where the CLEO, for political reasons, refuses to sign off on Forms 1/4. The business entity trick is a great way of explaining "we, the people" to these bozos.

 

[crunker]

Does anyone know what Filipino gun laws are like?

I've been trying to find out for quite a wihle now, to no avail.

PM me if you have some help.

 

[El Tejon]

Where's horge when you need him?

cajun, yes, it is legal, depending on state, as long as you comply with the National Firearms Act of 1934 which imposed a $200 tax on suppressors ("Silencer" was a trade name of suppressors). Others here have given you a thumbnail sketch of the process.

Many nations encourage the use of suppressors for environmental reasons (e.g. noise) and they are sold over the counter. In fact some of our European members may be required to shoot with suppressors at some of their clubs (near urban areas).

With the increasing urbanization of the USA, we could encourage public health, especially for the children, by moving suppressors to Title I. Which we should do without delay.

 

[ctdonath]

In the USA, they're federally legal (your state may vary). I've seen 'em for sale here in Georgia, running $750-$1000. Just have to do some paperwork and pay a $200 tax, which any dealer thereof will walk you through.

Go dig around on http://www.silencertests.com for more details on these and other silenced guns.

 

[Spreadfire Arms]

We don't need their permission, and our local sherrif [should be spelled "Sheriff"] got a call from the SC Attorney General to correct this mistake a few years back.

true in principle, however, there are many CLEOs who opt not to sign for whatever reason, at least here in Texas. some Chiefs of Police won't sign but the Sheriff of the County in which the same city is located in will sign. sometimes the converse is true. In Williamson County (north of Austin), Texas, the Sheriff won't sign off on a machine gun, but the City of Round Rock Police Chief will sign off. Conversely, the (acting) Chief of Police of Austin PD will not sign off on anything NFA, but the Sheriff of Travis County will so long as you can basically qualify for a Texas CHL. i know the former Sheriff of Travis County signed off as well but had an unwritten policy of limiting how many she'd sign, it was around 5.

i don't think the Attorney General can legally compel any CLEO to sign any form. yes, the form isn't some sort of permission slip, it just states that the CLEO is not aware of any law that would prohibit the applicant from possessing said firearm. however, i would sure like to see something in writing, preferably a law or administrative rule, that states that the CLEO is compelled to sign off. that would be very helpful because that way we could photocopy this law/rule and attach it with the Form 4 when dropping it off at the police station.

BTW, Matthew Vanitas called me very happy about the new silencer he picked out from John's Guns today!