J&G Sales has S&W Model 15 and 67

[Old Fuff]

I just received an e-mail notice that J&G Sales in Prescott, AZ has received a bunch of police surplus Smith & Wrsson .38 Combat Masterpiece revolvers. The have both blued (model 15's) and stainless steel (model 67's). They are 6-shot, K-frame, with adjustable sights and 4 inch barrels.

I suspect they are stamped with police department markings.

NOTE THAT THEY ARE CONVERTED TO DOUBLE-ACTION ONLY!

However they can be backward converted for approximately $100 for parts and perhaps less. More on this later.

HUGE BATCH OF THE FAMOUS S&W MODEL 67 AND 15 REVOLVERS !!

These Smith & Wesson revolvers are some of the most famous and sought after handguns. They are the tried and true K-frame in 38Special caliber, 6 shot cylinder, with the 4 inch barrel and adjustable sights. The Model 15 is blued, and the Model 67 is the stainless version. Versions of these were used by the US Air Force, the LAPD, the FBI, and many other departments as issue sidearms. We have obtained a large selection, all of them are double action only with modified spur hammers, and they come in three grades from Good up to Very Good Plus, ranging from $239.95 to $279.95 each.

Check them out here

http://www.jgsales.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=smith+dao+4in

 

[jad0110]

Revolvers have been modified to be Double Action Only to comply with police requirements, but still retain the spur hammer.

Emphasis added

Eek, I can see this being a liability. An unknowing shooter cocks the hammer wanting to shoot SA, since externally they appear to be factory stock, and bang! A nasty little surprise when the hammer doesn't stay cocked.

I think I'd pay a gunsmith to have the hammer bobbed off completely to avoid any confusion. Or have a qualified gunsmith restore the SA capability.

Bah, maybe I'm just thinking too much .

 

[Old Fuff]

You may have a good point. It's my understanding that the hammer spur, or part of it, was left on because it was necessary for the holster's safety strap. If the user's finger was off the trigger it would follow the hammer down and the hammer block would prevent a discharge. But if the trigger was held back I suppose it might fire.

 

[jad0110]

If the user's finger was off the trigger it would follow the hammer down and the hammer block would prevent a discharge.

Well, that is a good point as well. I had forgotten about the hammer block.

 

[ljnowell]

Eek, I can see this being a liability. An unknowing shooter cocks the hammer wanting to shoot SA, since externally they appear to be factory stock, and bang! A nasty little surprise when the hammer doesn't stay cocked.

That really does seem like a silly thing to do, doesnt it? I mean, not safe at all, IMO. If it wasnt for that simple fact I would buy my wife one. Or two.

 

[WhoKnowsWho]

I was wondering about the conversion cost. Even with the $100 for the conversion to standard DA and SA it sounds like a nice way to get a nice revolver.

 

[Old Fuff]

That really does seem like a silly thing to do, doesnt it? I mean, not safe at all, IMO. If it wasnt for that simple fact I would buy my wife one. Or two.

At this point I'm not sure if there is an issue here or not, but if so it could be easily eliminated by cutting off whatever remained of the hammer spur - something that's easily done. The other alternative is to backward convert a revolver and restore the single action function. I'll go into that later.

 

[Jim Watson]

I have a DAO revolver I wish I had not let the gunsmith talk me into removing the hammer spur. I would like to be able to ease the hammer back far enough to drop the cylinder stop and roll the cylinder to be sure I did not have a high primer or dirt under the star before I shoot.

 

[FiveFiveSixFan]

Thanks for the heads up on that, Old Fuff. I just placed an order and I should get it by the end of this week.

FWIW, while they note that there are some with pinned barrels available, they are charging $10 extra for those.

 

[Old Fuff]

I need to go into it more, but it seems to me that the hammer spur issue on DAO revolvers is really centered around the knowledge and training of the user. Clearly they're wasn't a problem when they were commonly used by law enforcement officers, because if there were we would have heard about it.

But they may have been better trained about ways to handle their DAO revolvers, and the practice of leaving the cocking spur (or part of it) on the revolvers when they were converted seems to have been limited to police departments that had holsters that required the spur as part of the rig's safety system.

In any case these revolvers apparently still have cocking spurs, but if this concerns anyone the spur can be completely removed without affecting the gun's operation. Within this context I don't think there is an issue.

 

[Old Fuff]

FWIW, while they note that there are some with pinned barrels available, they are charging $10 extra for those.

I would expect that... They are in business to make money.

However I believe that all - or at least most - pre-date the introduction of internal locks, MIM lockwork, and two-piece barrels. Model 15's for example were discontinued the year following the introduction of these "improvements." If this is of concern to those ordering model 15's be sure you specify that you want a model 15-7 or earlier.