"Jack knife" shooting position

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Don't know how they are teaching now but in the Corps in 64 "position" shooting was to teach familiarity and disciplined behavior with the rifle...and god help you if you said "gun"....prone, kneeling and the "gook squat"(one that should be taught now) were most often used in Nam. Standing would get you killed if you stayed up much past first contact in a firefight and who the hell had time or inclination to sit!?

As for the photo...I say again it isn't right....he is not shooting unless it is at something close...he is observing! Where the barrel on that rifle came from????

And another thing. See the radio operator? He has a long antenna up. That is a PRC 25....I was a radio operator and I carried on of those a long time! Therefore, I can tell you this. If you wanted to up the probability of getting killed in "indian country" just put up the long antenna, on your PRC-25. You use the short tape antenna unless you are in a secure location.
So the radio operator is an fng, has been ordered to put it up, an idiot or they are in a fairly secure location.
 
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Old thread, I know...

But I just came across the above elsewhere and remembered this discussion.

Previously referred to as "Carlos Hathcock."

It's amazing how such errors (and, in the proper context - lies) can self - perpetuate...

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The garbage is everywhere!
 
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@wbm re. "gook squat" I believe Jeff Cooper referred to it as "rice paddy prone" and it still is taught at Gunsite as one of "jackass positions".

And I guess if that sentence doesn't offend anyone, I just don't know how to be offensive. :D
 
I have used this position (and variations of it) on stalks in training, overseas, and hunting over steep creek bottoms. I think it was called the "Hathcock" in school, but I don't remember.
 
When younger and with fully functional knees “rice paddy Prone” was practiced a bit. First learned it in High school where a WWII vet instructor called it the “squat”

learned both “high sitting” (open leg)and “low sitting” (crossed ankle) in late 1960’s as well and “toe” and “ankle” kneeling.

that thing Elmer in his hat is doing some boys called the bear hug.

As I krept into my forties, I was astounded that Major EJ Land that was teaching a class I was taking could simply walk into a VERY solid text book ankle kneel with no warm up or stretches as he approached 70!

darned old Marine snipers and national champions… making us ALL look bad!

-kBob
 
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