Jacketed Wadcutter Pictures Wanted

[kcofohio]

A co-worker brought in his FIL's revolver with a bullet stuck in the barrel. Plus there was a wadcutter that he was able to remove using a BP bullet puller. This is either brass or copper sleeve at the muzzle. The bullet behind it has wedged into the sleeve. At first we were thinking a smaller cartridge, like a 32 S&W, may be in the barrel. The revolver is a 38 Spl. It's a puzzler.

But after a closer look, I believe the first stuck bullet was a jacketed wadcutter. I've never seen one, and didn't find a good example online.

I'm hoping some members here may have good examples that you would post.

Here is the core of the wadcutter he pulled.


Thanks for any info.

 

[George P]

There are plated wadcutters I have seen (and shot) - perhaps that is what you are seeing?

 

[AJC1]

How about a gas check...

 

[kcofohio]

I'm pretty sure it's jacketed and not plated. These predate plated, from what info I have read.

 

[kcofohio]

The second stuck bullet is a little over a half inch from the muzzle. The sleeve of copper or brass sticks out about an 1/8" beyond the muzzle. The second bullet seized up on the sleeve.

 

[kcofohio]

Here's another angle of the core.

This end was at the muzzle

 

[Charlie98]

Looks like one of the old Speer half-jacketed HP's...

 

[forrest r]

Looks like one of the old Speer half-jacketed HP's...

+1 ^^^^^^^^

 

[kcofohio]

Looks like one of the old Speer half-jacketed HP's...

I'm not sure how much hallow it had before he screwed the puller into it.

I have pulled a semi-jacketed round nose before.

 

[mdi]

Gun? Pic of the "jacket". "Jacketed" full wadcutters have probably been made, but I cannot remember any. I shot a lot of Speer half jacketed bullets, SWC and RN, in my 38/357s and 44 Magnums

 

[reddog81]

Federal sold a 130 grain HST jacketed hollow point wadcutter self defense round. Midway sold a bunch of the over run bullets a few years back.

 

[kcofohio]

Gun? Pic of the "jacket". "Jacketed" full wadcutters have probably been made, but I cannot remember any. I shot a lot of Speer half jacketed bullets, SWC and RN, in my 38/357s and 44 Magnums

I'll get some pictures later tonight. I have it muzzle down soaking with oil.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

These are Speer .410" JHP's from the late 90's for .41Magnum.

 

[Zendude]

Maybe a full wadcutter swaged into a jacket, like the one at the top of the pic.

 

[Charlie98]

The Speer 220grn .41 half-jacket SWC was my go-to jacketed bullet for a long time... I don't know how many hundreds of those I loaded and shot.

 

[kcofohio]

Maybe a full wadcutter swaged into a jacket, like the one at the top of the pic.
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Thanks, yes, that is what I was looking for. I've never seen any in the wild.

 

[**Brian19**]

I have these in 45acp that was part of estate sale stuff. They look homemade.

 

[kcofohio]

Okay, I believe there are 2 stuck bullets in the barrel, along with this jacket

 

[FROGO207]

That's going to be fun to clear. Good thing for a cylinder gap! Might be easier to tap everything back down the barrel with a brass rod if you can open or remove the cylinder.

 

[kcofohio]

That's going to be fun to clear. Good thing for a cylinder gap! Might be easier to tap everything back down the barrel with a brass rod if you can open or remove the cylinder.

I removed the cylinder and crane. And an oak board with a relief drilled for the barrel, forcing cone end. I'm getting concerned, and am thinking of making a bushing to drill the center of the bullets out. At least to break the jackets. Going to research the use of mercury for lead removal.

 

[FROGO207]

Use some Kroil and let it sit in there with the barrel down a couple days. Then try driving the mess out. I always worry about drilling out anything and causing barrel damage. Heating the barrel with a heat gun before trying to move the bullets will help. The heat gun should not damage the barrel but will expand it slightly letting the bullets move easier. You may have to whack them HARD to get things started. Good luck.

 

[kcofohio]

Use some Kroil and let it sit in there with the barrel down a couple days. Then try driving the mess out. I always worry about drilling out anything and causing barrel damage. Heating the barrel with a heat gun before trying to move the bullets will help. The heat gun should not damage the barrel but will expand it slightly letting the bullets move easier. You may have to whack them HARD to get things started. Good luck.

Okay, I'll give the kroil and heat gun a try.

 

[Hondo 60]

I've been reloading for over a dozen years, and can't say as I've ever even heard of jacketed wadcutters.

Plated, yes, but not jacketed.
Could be a new one on me.
Just my 2¢. YMMV

 

[FROGO207]

I've been reloading for over a dozen years, and can't say as I've ever even heard of jacketed wadcutters.

Plated, yes, but not jacketed.
Could be a new one on me.
Just my 2¢. YMMV

FWIW back in the late 60's there were a bunch of Speer bullets with semi jackets and full side wall jackets with just a lead tip of some type. Basically to try and get better accuracy. They discontinued them because the cost was more and accuracy was about the same as cast. At that time plated had not even been thought of and cup and core bullets were at the top of the game.

 

[Walkalong]

I have drilled a bullet in a handgun barrel before, popped right out after that. That looks like someone has been really beating on it, might make things harder