John Wick 4

[Brubz]

In the new movie John Wick 4, John has a shotgun and when he hits a target the target bursts into flames. Is this just movie Bs or does such a shell exist? Also the shotgun is magazine loaded. If you have seen the movie what is the shotgun he is using?

 

[I6turbo]

A quick search says the gun is a Genesis Arms Gen-12
https://www.genesisarms.com/product-page/gen-12

And the ammo is supposedly Dragon's Breath https://www.phoenixrising.store/12-gauge-super-dragon-dragons-breath-ammunition.html

I haven't seen the movie but it's not unusual for film makers to take some creative license with regard to what a hand-held firearm can do, maybe a exaggerate a bit....

 

[Mars5l]

 

[Hugger-4641]

There may be some enhancement for the movie, but I can tell you first hand that Dragon's Breath does react that way if fired at a hard target at close enough range.
It also works great for lighting bon fires

 

[redcon1]

In the era of Disney homoactivism, I'm happy for the occasional John Wick movie. I thought it was great. It made me want to buy a new shotgun and some dragonsbreath rounds for sure.

 

[1976B.L.Johns.]

dragonsbreath rounds

@ $10.00 a round?

 

[I6turbo]

The ultimate close quarters movie gun would be the AA-12 from The Expendables loaded with the Dragon's Breath rounds .


I can do that with my short Auto-5 but, you know... just 5 rounds is lacking in effect...

 

[redcon1]

@ $10.00 a round?

yeah, they wouldn't cycle in a Semi-Auto anyways apparently. Run them in an 870 maybe?

 

[1976B.L.Johns.]

Run them in an 870 maybe?

An 870 has been my primary choice for over forty years.....

Sure!

 

[1976B.L.Johns.]

It's just an action movie for gun guys not meant to be taken seriously but then again some people take everything seriously

I have been trying to see what firearms J.W. is shooting and counting the rounds fired.
We all know how Hollywood works!

 

[Brubz]

Here they are

https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/John_Wick:_Chapter_4

 

[1976B.L.Johns.]

Here they are

Thanks!

 

[entropy]

yeah, they wouldn't cycle in a Semi-Auto anyways apparently. Run them in an 870 maybe?

I know they work fine in an 870.

 

[Frulk]

Passing through Salmon Idaho about 2-3 years ago on my way to Gibbonsville for some motorcycle R&R I stopped at an ammo dealer in town…they manufactured brass ammo.

Picked up a couple of 5 round packs of Dragons Breath for a price I don’t remember but it wasn’t nowhere’s near $10 a round. Think it was closer to $20 for the pack.

Have yet to shoot any. Was more a novelty purchase for shooting in dead of winter to preclude setting the countryside on fire during dry summer months.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that it’s corrosive and to make sure to clean the gun soon after shooting it.

 

[entropy]

Sage advice.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Dragon's Breath I have encountered depends on who made it when.
A. a flash bang grenade charge in a shotgun shell, or
B. a sparkly loud pyrotechnic display in a shotgun shell.
I have only fired one and that was over a snow covered field.
At roughly 7 meters a number 6 birdshot shell will do more damage to a target than than Dragon's Breath.
But if used as an alternative to a flash bang grenade it is stunning surprise

 

[redcon1]

Dragon's Breath I have encountered depends on who made it when.
A. a flash bang grenade charge in a shotgun shell, or
B. a sparkly loud pyrotechnic display in a shotgun shell.
I have only fired one and that was over a snow covered field.
At roughly 7 meters a number 6 birdshot shell will do more damage than to a target than Dragon's Breath.
But if used as an alternative to a flash bang grenade it is stunning surprise

I'd probably just use #4 buck in that Gen 12 but the top down dragons breath CQB scene was pretty fun to watch actually. I don't know that I'd want to shell out what they're asking for that shotgun though or go through all the NFA paperwork.

 

[DustyGmt]

I'm pretty sure I watched a garandthumb video a ways back and I think he reviewed that AR pattern shotgun (which I usually sneer at) and was left with the feeling that it might not be that much of a pos. It seemed reliable and he was able to get on target fast and crank pretty good with it......little to no recoil too

 

[TarDevil]

counting the rounds fired.

For the most part, they keep this realistic

 

[Hartkopf]

I'm not a fan of John Wick but at least he reloads in the middle of firefights. Several times I counted shots fired and right about the time he should run dry he would re load.

 

[hoardingthemanual]

Like others have said, my guess is that it's a Dragon's Breath round. My understanding is that it's a "novelty" round (in no way does this mean that I would want to be hit by it). Also, how was the movie? I love the franchise. In general, I love action movies. I'm just an average guy, not the type of guy to call a movie a "film"

 

[Brubz]

Like others have said, my guess is that it's a Dragon's Breath round. My understanding is that it's a "novelty" round (in no way does this mean that I would want to be hit by it). Also, how was the movie? I love the franchise. In general, I love action movies. I'm just an average guy, not the type of guy to call a movie a "film"

I liked it but didn't like the ending spoiler alert

 

[hso]

The question has been answered and the thread has wandered primarily into general movie opinion instead of on guns, ammo, and shooting realism. Since we're not a "love/hate XYZ movie" forum we'll just thank everyone that answered the OPs question about the Dragon's Breath.