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Just a little something from another forum I frequent......

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by Glocktimus Prime, Dec 12, 2011.

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  1. Glocktimus Prime

    Glocktimus Prime Member

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    I am a new member to this site, but I am a long time lurker. I got sick of the typical armchair quarterbacks found on other sites so I am here to give this on a shot.

    Forgive me if this is a repost, but i thought this might make for a good first one.

    http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5501655-House-renovation-firearm-find

    Quick overview of the original thread:
    Guy buys house- demos work bench and finds various NFA goodies in bench top. turns them in and hopes he can get them back.

    Here's to my first thread not getting locked up.
     
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  2. GMcBoozer

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    Hopefully he can afford to get them back, if the BATFE lets him. My money is on him never seeing them again, and them being destroyed.
     
  3. towboat_er

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    I agree.

    The BATFE will sell em to drug cartel members.
     
  4. Hunterdad

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    That's crazy!
     
  5. Glocktimus Prime

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    i almost spit my coke on my computer.

    Sure is a crazy find. It is truly a shame he won't be getting these finds back.
     
  6. Tim the student

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    Holy smokes! I really hope he gets that stuff back!

    OP, will you write a synopsis of that thread? I think this may get locked for being a drive by - I hope not, but it might, IMO.

    For others:

    The linked thread is about a guy who was renovating a house, and had to take apart a work bench. Inside the work bench, inaccessible from the outside, were a boatload of NFA stuff. Said NFA stuff was turned over to the ATF.
     
  7. whetrock

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    I'm not gonna lie if I found something like that it would be difficult for me to tell the authorities. I also wander if this is just a hoax and it's really just pics of some NFA enthusiest's collection I just have a hard time believing somebody "found" that really nice collection of weapons, but you never know what's out there.
     
  8. Glocktimus Prime

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    I'm don't know the owner of the house, nor the OP of the thread, but either way, it is a hell of a find if real.
     
  9. lowerunit411

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    as for me i think its a set up scam....seems so unlikely,,,,but then again im old and to me almost everything nowadays is suspect......just seems too "convenient" and who would take such a series of photos without so much as a suspicion...its a scam
     
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    Wow!! Wish that would happen to me!
     
  11. hso

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    That almost makes me weep!

    Folding stock BM59
    Para FAL
    [strike]High Standard[/strike]<Colt Huntsman> .22 with suppressor
    Collapsible stock CETME or early G3???
    Sten
    AK
     
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  12. lowerunit411

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    its a scam...but helluva first post if not suspect...see i told you i was old and suspicious!
     
  13. Glocktimus Prime

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    I wish I knew more about what i was looking at in those pics. Is there anything anyone can see in those pics as to know if they are real or not? Maybe when certain guns were made by how old they are, that would possibly make them a true stash away? I just don't know much about guns like that but would love to learn all I can about that stuff.
     
  14. hso

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    That's a BM59 stock on the left and a slant brake from an AK sticking out on the right in the pic with the pants.
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    If the rest are faked I don't know why you'd see the distinctive Beretta rifle in the first place.
     
  15. Glocktimus Prime

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    Are you a believer? I am. I could only hope to find stuff like this in my newly bought house during a renovation. Thumbs up for a good debate. =)
     
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    Can't be sure on the others, but the AK is full auto. You can see the third axis pin.
     
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    Ahhhhhh, Colt Huntsman!
     
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    Just one reason to do all your home repairs yourself. You never have to say a word about anything that you find inside the house from previous residents.
     
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    If someone really found these firearms and handed them to ATFE, they are gone. Some may be sent to cartel members, others went to the members only ATFE museum, and the common ones are being destroyed right now.
     
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    BATFE officials will be taking them home to add to their own collections.
     
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    Not necessarily. If they were ever on paper ATF should try to contact the former owner, or his heirs.

    And the guy who found them did the right thing. I'm counting way too many years in Club Fed if he'd kept them and it was discovered.
     
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    yep well i woulda had to pull some russian connections and get me a plane out of there with my newly aquired friends :D
     
  23. Wildbillz

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    I just saved the pics and made them bigger to see if I could see any details.

    I noticed the following.

    The AK looks like the recever is unfinished and appers to have the thrid pin in place.

    The H&K looking one is some sort of G3. Its got the wrong sight for a Cetme.

    The BM 59 Stock is shown with what looks to be an M1A Bush barrel gun. I think the same stock either fits both or SA made some of the folders to fit the M1As. Can't tell if that one is converted or not as its flipped on the wrong side. 30 round mag sitting by it in the picture also.

    The STEN Gun looks like the mag shoot is in the storage position as the mag is not locked in all the way.

    The Fal I think is a kit build. Its got the wrong parts in a couple of places to be an orignal FN. Gas plug is Austrian, Flash hidder looks like its an after market one and the take down lever is miss matched to the finnish of the lower.

    I think I tend to beleve the story that they found someones illegal stach of guns and turned them over to the BATFE. If not they were stupid to put the pics up.

    But then I could be all wrong?
    WB
     
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    I just read through the orginal posting and the guys said only some of them had been converted, so some may be legal?

    Also it looks like some sort of room built in behind the bench? You can see a barrel and some stuff behind the wall in the pictures. Like a coal room that had the enterance walled off to hide it?

    WB
     
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  25. Jim K

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    General rule: When you buy a house, you buy its contents as well unless the sales contact specifically exempts something (e.g., "the crystal chandelier in the dining room does not convey"). So the current owner of the home would legally own those guns, etc. BUT, if they are NFA items, and not registered, they are contraband, and cannot (and will not) be returned to the owner. If they are registered, things get tricky. BATFE will/might attempt to contact the previous owner and they could be legally transferred to the new owner of the house IF the original owner, or his heir, wants to go through the paper work of the transfer. IMHO, if the new owner wants to have the NFA items returned, he should contact an attorney.

    Jim
     
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