Just a quick transfer/insurance question

[crew590]

Hey all sorry to bother if this seems like a dumb or routine question.

I bought a gun thru a private party (no FFL) and was wondering how do I get the gun transfered into my name? Now this has been alwhile ago and I had no contact with the seller as I used a middle man (a personal friend of mine) and I have since moved out of the state for school. I was thinking I should get the gun transfered to my name for insurance reasons (stolen, fire, etc).

Also, if there is no easy way to do the transfer (or I decide not to) how do I file a claim with insurance company if I can't prove it's mine? (I have a bill of sale but am not sure where it is :banghead::banghead

Thanks,

Jay

 

[Eric F]

Make a new bill of sale and get a buddy to fake a signature who will ever know? You bought it out of the local trader magazine right?

 

[Soybomb]

Unless your state has some requirement for registration there is no such thing as transfering it into your name. Treat it like any other piece of property and photograph it for insurance if you like.

 

[ryanl]

NC has no requirement for transfering a gun if its a person to person transaction, nor are you required to keep any records of the transaction.

 

[crew590]

Not that it matters (same laws), but the gun was bought in WV.

Jay

 

[Eric F]

no I think you are mistaken
you bought it last week in NC right? What I am getting at is that there is no proof of a sale any where right? So just keep it and forget about paperwork.

 

[mekender]

NC has no requirement for transfering a gun if its a person to person transaction, nor are you required to keep any records of the transaction.

WRONG!

some of the advice above is not only wrong, its downright criminal to even suggest

pistol permits are required for ALL transactions involving a handgun... the seller must retain a copy of the permit... if you use a "middle man" then there are two permits required... the middle man must give the seller one, and you must give one to the middle man...

there are no records of ownership for specific firearms, so that isnt tracked, but not following the law is a crime...

if you have no record or permit, the original owner can simply report his firearm stolen and then you have a problem... as it is now, there is no way to remedy that situation without contacting the original seller and providing him with a pistol permit... if said permit is dated after the sale took place, you might have other problems...

 

[mekender]

Not that it matters (same laws), but the gun was bought in WV.

hmmm didnt see that part... look up the wv laws about private transfers... should be pretty clear..

 

[Matt G]

Moved to Legal.

Be very careful what you are saying. Mistakes happen, and can be corrected, but it might be a good idea to speak in hypotheticals before you get the black letter law in your hand, okay?

All: Please cite the law or regulations that you assert prevails in this case, please. Hearsay is no excuse for legal reference.

 

[crew590]

Just some clarifaction.

The gun in question is a rifle and was purchased in West Virginia.

I'm pretty sure I'm in the clear about the legality of the purchase (But still can't find the law on it. Some help maybe?).

Jay

P.S. Matt, Thanks for moving this for me. I never even thought about legal. Also, I'll keep the hypothetical idea in mind for future reference.

 

[Flyboy]

mekender, what law are you claiming applies here? When you say "all," are you referring to all in a given state, or all in the country (state vs. Federal law).

There is no such mandate in Federal law. Interstate transfers must go through an FFL, and new purchases (i.e. retail purchases) must go through an FFL, but beyond that, Federal law is (largely) silent. Private transfers within a state are not, as a rule, restricted by Federal law (NFA items notwithstanding).

I cannot speak as to West Virginia law, but I suspect it's fairly free there, if only on the basis that I haven't heard of them having any onerous laws.

 

[Bubbles]

There are no registration or purchase permit requirements for face-to-face transfers of either long guns or handguns between private individuals in WV.

If you need documentation for insurance purposes that you own the gun should it be stolen, take a few digital photos showing the overall condition and serial #, burn them to a CD, and store them in a document safe.

 

[Deavis]

Make a new bill of sale and get a buddy to fake a signature who will ever know? You bought it out of the local trader magazine right?

Hey, how about not advocating breaking the law or doing things that wouldn't be considered the high road? Lying to insurance agencies, turning back your odometer, and selling a gun you know if junk all fall under the former or the latter.

Instead, why not give relevant advice for the poster based on N.C. laws or better yet if you can't just don't post.

 

[Robert Hairless]

Deavis:

Hey, how about not advocating breaking the law or doing things that wouldn't be considered the high road? Lying to insurance agencies, turning back your odometer, and selling a gun you know if junk all fall under the former or the latter.

Amen.

 

[mekender]

mekender, what law are you claiming applies here? When you say "all," are you referring to all in a given state, or all in the country (state vs. Federal law).

since the post i made quoted a statemend about NC, it would stand to reason that my discussion was referring to NC law...