Just sent out the new Taurus 650 for repairs

[aryfrosty]

When I came out of the Navy in 1971 my first purchase was a snazzy new Taurus..nickel clone of a Model 10. It was garbage out of the box and I sold it to a gunsmith who "figured he could put it right". He gave up later in the year. Just my opinion, but there is little "right" about Taurus worth copying for Smith and Wesson. In fact, I can think of only 3 issues where Taurus set the bar. The crane lock; the "lock" mechanism in the rear of the hammer and the wide variety of calibers. Their finish stinks. Their metalurgy is low class. Their M-1911 clone looks and handles like a big rock. Other than that I guess they do OK. I gladly admit they are better than some of the "low-grade" out in he world.

 

[Caddo]

MCgunner, yep I sure am complaining. Taurus customer service is absolutely the worst I've yet to experiance. Obviously their QA process is lacking also. When the gun shoots, it shoots just fine. It's when it doesn't shoot that kind of gripes me.

I can tell you exactly HOW I didn't see the problem! I didn't check! Like you said, for $50 and a lifetime warranty, there's probably not much wrong that can't be fixed! I wasn't that concerned about it.

The point I'm trying to make is, BLUF, Taurus Customer Service Sucks!

LD

 

[MCgunner]

Well, if it's selling for 50 bucks, I'd have to think there's gotta be a problem with it. Just send it to Taurus and shoot your other guns until it returns.

aryfrosty, a lot has changed since 1971. Taurus makes quality revolvers with locks in the hammer that can be ignored now and Smith and Wesson makes expensive junk with holes in the side for the anitgunners approval. It's a different era, the 21st century. Y2K didn't put us in a time warp after all. But, I'm an old fart, too. I don't have any Benny Goodman 78s, though. I download to my MP3 player.

 

[aryfrosty]

MCGunner; I agree with you mostly. The Titanium .45C was tight and shipshape when I bought it, but with a box of ammo down the tube it has already loosened up too much.

 

[tinygnat219]

Shooter 429,

You love your j-frames huh. I am sooo addicted to these little guns. The Rugers are neat little guns too. I miss mine.
Yup. They are nice little guns to pack and carry.

And my Buckmark is so awesome. Here's a pic

Where'd you get those Fiber optic sights? I have a Buckmark Camper model and would love some of those Fiber optic sights.

Anyway, if more people would let reason in and forget about pride, we would have a lot fewer (my T..had to go in for repairs for the nth time and they had it 5months).

5 months? WOW I would have been on the phone with them every day after 2. I figure Taurus and me just weren't made for each other. I now have one left...

I think instead of attending to all the people that have their Taurus guns sent in, we could have just the ones that actually work, post. I have a feeling there would be many fewer Taurus-related threads. Better yet, what if everybody tried a Smith J-frame or Browning Buckmark, for that matter before buying Taurus, they wouldn't.

Heh... if only Smith's prices were more like Taurus... that's where Taurus is kicking the crap out of S&W...

 

[MCgunner]

Well, I have no experience with titanium. Guns are a little high for my budget. Smith is, other than the little 642, high for my budget and I don't like the lock on 'em. I just don't think Smith is all that great anymore, either, hear a lot of bad and seen some. They do seem to have the customer service, I just wish they built 'em like my early 60s M10, solid and precision built.

I love my Ruger revolvers, but they just don't have variety like a little lightweight .38 snub, for instance. The one model they build for CCW is the SP101 and it's way heavy, though I do like shooting mine with heavy loads. Taurus and Smith and Wesson have the variety. I'm really happy with my M85SSUL and carry it a lot more than the Ruger even though the Ruger is a tack driver and is controllable with heavy loads. It just don't go in a pocket. Taurus and Smith have those little ultra lite/air weights covered. I've got something over 6K rounds through my M85SSUL, only 500 or so +P, the rest light loads, but it's tight as a drum and is shooting great. Hell of a nice DA trigger on that thing, too. It's a joy to shoot DA.

 

[Hokkmike]

Always a bummer to send out a brand new rifle. Sorry. Hope they make it right!

 

[Virginian]

I have guns from most makers and am happy with all of them. I have handled guns from all makers, at the dealer's, that I did not buy.
Examples:
Colt SAA, 2nd Gen, 44 Spl., pristine - would not go to full cock.
S&W 686, 6" - locked up tight as a drum after 1/2 of one cocking motion.
Taurus 22 revolver (older) - threw past ever cylinder bolt stop
Ruger GP100, 6" SS - locked up about 1/2 of one cock into the program.
To label all guns from any manufacturer, for whatever reason, as bad, bears little resemblance to reality.
In the 80's, Taurus cranked out a whole lot of very, very good revolvers. I still have a 431 (fixed sights), 4" SS in 44 Spl. that I will never sell. Great gun.
S&W sold all the gun owners down the river. But, I still have one Smith I love. Wm. B. Ruger rolled over on the magazine capacity issue, but I have several Rugers I am happy with. Colt could not manage their way out of a paper bag... not even a wet one, but my Grandaddy's still works like a watch so I will keep it.
I believe in "Buy American", but I have a couple of Uberti Cimarrons. Almost $2000 difference between a new 'U' and a used "C", and I could not tell which was which by feel.... nope, not me.
I wish we could adopt a "not run anybody down" policy. I don't think any of the standard gunmakers are going to pay the bucks to have quality inspection at the level they once did, or even where maybe it ought to be, but the realities of bidness in the new world order are not the stuff of which many of our dreams were made.

 

[aryfrosty]

Virginian your point is well made.