'Katrina effect' blamed for rise in homicides

Status
Not open for further replies.

Desertdog

Member
Joined
Dec 26, 2002
Messages
1,980
Location
Ridgecrest Ca
'Katrina effect' blamed for rise in homicides
City would have seen a 7.8 percent decrease without evacuee-related deaths, HPD says


By ALLAN TURNER
http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/3844488.html

Violence among Hurricane Katrina evacuees, much of it occurring in southwest Houston neighborhoods targeted in a new anti-crime campaign, accounted for nearly a quarter of homicides in the city so far this year, police officials said Friday.

Since Jan. 1, police have investigated 124 homicides, 29 of which involved evacuees as victims or attackers, said Capt. Dale Brown of the Houston Police Department. There were 103 homicides over the same period last year; without the evacuee-related deaths this year, the city would have experienced a 7.8 percent decrease.

In the last four months of 2005, evacuees were victims or suspects in 18 homicides, accounting for 13 percent of such crimes during that period. A total 336 killings were investigated last year, representing a 22 percent increase over 2004.

"As it relates to murders, there's a definite Katrina effect, and it's most noticeable since December," Brown said.

Brown's analysis of homicide trends — the numbers were increasing before Katrina evacuees arrived last fall — came as police began evaluating a 10-day experiment in which a mobile command unit was placed in high-crime neighborhoods.

The unit, a large recreational vehicle, was designed to encourage residents to cooperate with authorities and to signal an increased police presence in the area to potential offenders.

Brown said much of the violence in the targeted neighborhoods — police patrol districts 17, 18, and 19 — is tied to gangs. This year, 37 homicides have been reported in those areas.

"The level of fear locks people behind doors," he said. "That was true here more than in any other place in the city. ... Gangs truly are violent crime machines. Once, one person would be a serial killer. Now we have groups."

Brown conceded that "we still haven't broken the back of murders," but Police Chief Harold Hurtt on Friday said he expects "to see a turnaround in overall violent crime, hopefully by the end of June."

While Katrina evacuees contributed to the growing homicide numbers, Hurtt noted that upward trend in Houston was evident as early as last April or May. Hurtt said after that increase was detected, a city-federal task force was created to target violent offenders in southwest Houston neighborhoods. Five hundred suspects were arrested, he said.

Brown said Houston homicides peaked in 1979-83, a period when the department was understaffed as the city experienced a population boom, and again in 1989-91, as the department suffered a three-year hiring freeze as a result of the mid-1980s oil crash. A record 701 slayings were recorded in 1981.

The latest growth in lethal crime has occurred as the police department again has found itself short-staffed. Hurtt, who has advocated graduating six police academy classes annually, noted that the "framework and the spirit and the knowledge" for community policing — as represented by the recent mobile command center experiment — is in place.

"But it is extremely human resource intensive," he said, "and that's the problem."

He said the department currently has 4,805 officers, or 2.2 officers per 1,000 residents. At its height in 2001, the department had 5,400 officers. The national average is 2.8 officers per 1,000 residents.

By comparison, Hurtt said, New York City currently has 4.8 officers per 1,000 residents; Chicago, 4.7 officers; and Los Angeles, 2.5.

Hurtt said HPD has lost about 800 officers to retirement in the past two years and faces more than 900 possible retirements in the next four. The average Houston police officer is 41 years old; the average patrol officer, 38, Hurtt said.

[email protected]
 
Several articles in Houston papers, last fall and winter, about this problem. BadGuys from the New Orleans area not only had their basic outlaw nature, they had a certain amount of anonymity as not-previously-known to Houston PD.

Similar patterns, I've read, happened in northern Louisiana cities.

Art
 
Sounds like a nice demonstration of the proposition that guns don't cause crime, people do. Evacuees came unarmed, but brought their behavior with them.
 
Same sort of thing in the Atlanta area. Gangs got displaced from N.O., wound up in new territory... someone else's territory. Unpleasantness ensued. You have to expect it.
 
I witnessed the aftermath of the New Orleans gang transplant. In a grocery store parking lot about half a mile from my house there was a gang shootout in December. Apparently some cajun boys attempted to take over some territory here. I saw the cars and a few had Louisiana plates.

Crime is like heat. It will flow unchecked without insulation. Crime in my area has been pretty low. It had been a long time since anything like that happened.
 
It would be nice if the petty criminals just left Houston. A physician friend from New Orleans who's been in Houston since Katrina, and who's returning in a couple months, jokingly commented that NO is a better place now after the purge.
 
This thread brings up and interesting question, how much crime anywhere in general is inherent to that location and how much is the product of other locations? Gun grabbers love to blame their high crime rates on the ease in which criminals get their firearms by going gun friendly states. The theory is that criminals get their guns from gun-friendly states then return to gun-banned states to commit crimes against citizens that are far less likely to be armed and able to defend themselves. If it is true that criminals do go to gun-friendly states to get guns then is it hard to believe that criminals commit some crimes while in those gun friendly states? If this is the case, that criminals from gun-banned states commit crimes in gun-friendly states, then the already low crime rates in gun friendly states are themselves inflated by criminals from other states with gun bans. This is further proof that gun-bans actually facilitate crime (not just in states where the bans exist but in other states as well).
 
From http://tiadaily.com/php-bin/news/showArticle.php?id=1039




An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State (shorter version)
Sep 11, 2005
by Robert Tracinski
Robert Tracinski is the editor of TIADaily.com and The Intellectual Activist.

The events in New Orleans over the past few weeks make no sense if you view the event just as a natural disaster. If it had just been a natural disaster, then the story would have been about rain, wind, and flooding—not about rape, murder, and looting.

But this is not just a natural disaster. It is also a man-made disaster. Hurricane Katrina merely exposed it to public view.

Many commentators have agreed—but they blame the chaos on American "individualism" and on too little funding for the welfare state. The truth is precisely the opposite: the chaos was caused by a system of socialism, not individualism.

The real man-made disaster is the welfare state.

Most of us found the news from New Orleans to be confusing. When confronted with a disaster, people usually rise to the occasion, work together to rescue people in danger, and spontaneously organize to keep order and solve problems. This is especially true in America. We are an enterprising people, used to relying on our own initiative rather than waiting around for the government to take care of us.

So why did the opposite happen in New Orleans? What explains bands of thugs using a natural disaster as an excuse for an orgy of looting, armed robbery, and rape? Why did the people who fled to the Superdome wallow in filthy, unsanitary conditions—while chanting for someone else to help them? What caused people to attack the doctors trying to treat patients at the Superdome?

Why are people responding to natural destruction, either with total passivity, or by causing destruction of their own?

All of this has a familiar feeling. My wife and I both studied at universities located on the south side of Chicago, not far from the Robert Taylor Homes, which used to be one of the largest high-rise public housing projects in America. "The projects," as they were known, were infamous for uncontrollable crime and irremediable squalor. What we felt while watching television coverage of the Superdome was a whiff of the sense of life of "the projects."

There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the deluge hit—but they were trapped alongside large numbers of criminals and parasites from the city's public housing projects.

What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the tragic psychological consequences of the welfare state. What we consider "normal" behavior in an emergency is normal for people who are used to taking the responsibility to pursue and protect their values. But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't own anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their businesses or how they are going to make a living? They have never been expected to worry about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? They have been told that they are victims of society, and that theft, as many of the New Orleans looters explained to reporters, is just an opportunity to "get back" what they feel society owes them.

People living in piles of their own trash, while petulantly complaining that other people aren't doing enough to take care of them, then shooting at those who try to rescue them—this is not just a description of the chaos at the Superdome. It is a perfect summary of the 40-year history of the welfare state and its public housing projects.

The welfare state—and the brutish, uncivilized mentality it sustains and encourages—is the man-made disaster that explains the moral ugliness that swamped New Orleans.
 
The 'Katrina Effect' has increase new conceal carry applications at the local gun ranges by 300%+. Couple of friends have reported some antis there getting CHLs:what:
 
Katrinas Effect!

Exactly! At my Texas City range, it seems like its crowded more often than not on the weekends. Get there early, or you are squeezed out of available pistol tables.

Mind you, there's still lots of rifle slots open, which is why I'm now binging my AK along with every range trip. That, and to get ready for Hurricane Season.:evil:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top