Keeping a log book.

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zerofournine

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Several members here have mentioned that they keep a shooting log book. It is my understanding that they track which guns they shoot and how many rounds the put through that gun. Is there something else to keep track of in a log? Does someone want to share how they keep their log organized? I have some new guns, and I am thinking about trying to keep a round count log for them.
 
Details of any malfunctions you have - ammo type, magazine type, where in the mag it happened, type of malfunction, lube used, number of rounds since last cleaning, etc.
Weather conditions.
Group sizes with different loads.
Type of drills you run with the times you do them in - this gives a quantifiable way to gauge your training progress.

It's your book. Make it as detailed as you like. If all you care about is round count that's fine. If you want to use it as a training aid, even better.
 
I have kept a log of shooting trips for years, I can go back and see when my kids made their first trip, some friends who have passed last trip etc. I keep round count, malfunctions, cleaned or not, drills ran, weather, and who I went with. I doubt it's really that important, but I enjoy doing it, and looking back occasionally helps me remember some really fun days O' blastin!
 
I think it would be helpful if you ever had a "critical incident" to be able to document your training and ongoing self-assessment of proficiency if you are serious about training. The goal would be to show that you exceed the requirements for the local LEOs for frequency of training, etc.
This is one of those things like having all my stuff on videotape with the value and serial numbers in case of a fire, stored off site. Super idea, everyone should do it. Have I? It's on my to do list.
 
I added that to my software (below), for both tracking maintenance/issue events and also shooting results. At first I just added maintenance and after a while someone asked me to add shooting results, so they can track if accuracy declines with any particular gun over time. I thought that was a good idea, and I've been able to tell how I've gotten better shooting certain guns, and how I'm "out of practice" a bit with others.
 
The only range time I keep a log book over is when I am testing reload recipes. I write down the measurements for cartridges and how they group on paper. For range trips with factory ammo I just write the data such as ammo, distance, magazine, weapon etc on the target itself.
 
Hi Rollis- Shot Works Pro is Windows only. I've been trying to find a phone developer who would be interested in doing the conversion to iPhone and Android but no luck yet.
 
I think it would be helpful if you ever had a "critical incident" to be able to document your training and ongoing self-assessment of proficiency if you are serious about training. The goal would be to show that you exceed the requirements for the local LEOs for frequency of training, etc.

I hear/read stuff like this all the time, but I'm doubtful about it. If you shot and missed, and someone is injured by the miss, some evidence of your proficiency might be useful. If, however, you face the still-unlikely-but-more-common allegation that you shot improperly, demonstrating that you spend a LOT of time shooting guns may only cause a non-gun-person prosecutor, judge, or jury member to see you as a lunatic.
 
Darn you KOZZZ, I bought my first computer in 1992. The first thing I, did was try to develop a gun data base. I, have never been able to build one that was any good.

Ok now that I, have my envy out of my system, I, will be ordering the full program on Friday.
 
i am going to do somthing similar for the AR i just built, seeing it as its the only gun i haven't shot yet. im not sure whether i should make an entire book divided for each of my guns, or just keep a small booklet w/ each gun.
 
What a waste of time in my opinion. Guns are made to shoot, go shoot, accuracy falls off, clean it.... You dont keep a log on your cars do you? Hit a bad pothole on Sept 25th, 2009....:neener:
 
What a waste of time in my opinion. Guns are made to shoot, go shoot, accuracy falls off, clean it.... You dont keep a log on your cars do you? Hit a bad pothole on Sept 25th, 2009....:neener:
I do keep a log on my car's oil changes and other repairs. Both for warranty validation and piece of mind for the next owner!

And thanks for the feedback there Rollis. I do appreciate it!
 
zerofournine said:
Several members here have mentioned that they keep a shooting log book. It is my understanding that they track which guns they shoot and how many rounds the put through that gun. Is there something else to keep track of in a log? Does someone want to share how they keep their log organized? I have some new guns, and I am thinking about trying to keep a round count log for them.

I only keep a log book for my precision rifle. In it I record data about the conditions on the day I was shooting (elevation, temperature, wind, etc), the type of load I was shooting, how many rounds were fired, and what was observed with those shots (developing dope for the rifle under different conditions).

For me, the entire purpose of this log book is to ensure that I'm getting the most out of my rifle in terms of accuracy. My goal with that rifle is to hit small targets at great distances, and logging my data has helped me to do that. It also causes you to slow down a bit, and think about the particulars of each shot: Did you hit? Did you miss where you hit before? What changed? Is the wind a direct crosswind, or is it quartering? How is the temperature impacting the performance of your ammo? Is your first shot behaving as your other shots behave? and so on...

As for my other guns, I shoot them, clean them when I need to, and shoot them some more. I don't have the time, patience, or inclination to log every round through my pistols or plinking rifles!


zorro45 said:
I think it would be helpful if you ever had a "critical incident" to be able to document your training and ongoing self-assessment of proficiency if you are serious about training. The goal would be to show that you exceed the requirements for the local LEOs for frequency of training, etc.
This is one of those things like having all my stuff on videotape with the value and serial numbers in case of a fire, stored off site. Super idea, everyone should do it. Have I? It's on my to do list.

As a police officer myself, let me assure you that the facts that are present in the critical incident are the only ones you'll be judged by. Things like:

1) Were you justified in shooting when you did?

2) Was the amount of force you used reasonably justifiable?

3) Did you cause unnecessary or reckless harm to another?


Departments often use training records to protect themselves from liability for an officer's actions, but rarely do these records benefit the officer in a legal battle (except maybe to show that they behaved as they were trained). Honestly, the reality of a critical incident is that the things that will come under the microscope will be only those things involved in the incident. If you want to keep a log of your training, by all means feel free to do so. But, I wouldn't worry about not having this information from a legal perspective. It's either going to be judged as a good shoot or it isn't.
 
i keep log books on my Mathieu rifle in .300 Winchester magnum, a Cheetah MK I rifle and one Colt AR-15. The rest are shot, cleaned and stored until the next time.
 
Arkansas Paul said:
Wow, you guys really know how to take the fun out of shooting.

I don't know, I think it's fun to hit prairie dog sized targets beyond 700 yards. How often such a shot connects with the target depends an awful lot on how good your data is (wind dope, adjustments for temperature and altitude, etc). Keeping data helps me know how I need to adjust for the long range shots.
 
In my log I record the temperature at the time. Very interesting to note later that there can be a significant difference in velocities of some loads depending on whether its a hot day or a cool one.]]

Example: chronographing Remington Express 125 grain SJHP .357 magnum out of my Ruger GP100 4" on a 90 deg F day resulted in an average of 1451 fps.

That same load out of the same pistol on a 50 deg F day showed only 1375 fps.

Same load out of a 3" SP101 on same days was 1375 fps versus 1322 fps.

If I hadn't had the temperaure recorded, I'd have been very puzzled as to why the difference in velocities.
 
What a waste of time in my opinion. Guns are made to shoot, go shoot, accuracy falls off, clean it.... You dont keep a log on your cars do you?

You couldn't have picked a worse analogy than you did :banghead:

Car people keep religious logs of their vehicles. Anyone concerned with resale will keep maintenance logs, service history will help with resale.

And as stated, you may need it to verify maintenance was done if warranty work is needed.

As far as my firearms, I only track the number of rounds. For the OP, I've seen phone apps that will let you track what ever you wish.
 
zerofournine,

Keeping a Log is a great idea, and the people here have posted some great info. Before you begin, why not try running your ideas for a log book past the forum again for some additional input?

Good Luck.
 
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