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Kerry is SUNK!

Discussion in 'Legal' started by telewinz, Aug 6, 2004.

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  1. telewinz

    telewinz Member

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  2. Croyance

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    Not really, voting isn't about issues and the people anymore.
    Essentially, both sides have stopped listening. The noise is just to get the party faithful out on election day.
    People aligned with either party vote whichever lame candidate their party trots out. The public is inflicted with one or the other.
    Both candidates are uninspiring, witness the record numbers of undecided voters.
     
  3. Sodbuster

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    Agreed. And that's the best thing to be said about them. I don't hear a Vachel Lindsay writing poems (ala William Jennings Bryan) about either one of them.
     
  4. Shooter 2.5

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    Talk is cheap. Bush freed two countries and Libya has denounced terrorism.
    We have the Bush tax breaks, the economy is getting stronger. He hasn't signed any anti-gun legislation. He did sign a pro-gun bill into law.

    Kerry has done nothing in 19 years in the Senate, he's phony and an opportunist.

    As a gunowner who supports the Bill of Rights, I believe the anti-gun dem party has to be driven from office.
     
  5. RWK

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    “KERRY IS SUNK!" Well, he should be, but . . .

    With respect, I am afraid I disagree. Obviously, with many – certainly including me – he has been “sunk†for years (the most liberal voting record in a long Senate career, the worst attendance record, the “poster boy†for Massachusetts liberals, and so forth). Further, the dubious history of his in-country “courageâ€, the profile of his remaining Naval service, the anti-veteran diatribes are not news. [Note: I say all of this in the context of a peer, who served as a Naval officer in the late ‘60s, the ‘70s, and the ‘80s].

    Most unfortunately, many people do not care if his peers – brother Riverine Naval officers from the same River Patrol Squadron – are virtually all appalled by his actual Vietnam service and his post-war reputation. In addition, the Democrat “spin artists†are already attempting to neutralize the testimony of his fellow-officers, indicating that they did not “serve†with him (evident, since Swift boats had a small (usually 5 or 6 man) with only one commissioned officer). This misses the point that in a squadron where patrol lasted only hours, where “all hands†lived together on a river-anchored LST, and where crewmembers frequently transferred among boats, character was instantaneously transmitted to all squadron-mates.
     
  6. El Rojo

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    I think Bush is going to win this one no problem. Kerry is running on a raise taxes platform. He is going to pay for all of his plans by getting rid of the tax cut. I think there are just enough American's out there to realize, "Hey that is my $300 ($600) he wants to take away." Kerry has nothing going for him. Sure the liberal polls want us to think so, but I don't think so. But talk is cheap, lets see what happens in November.
     
  7. Derby FALs

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    Someone has to pay. At least you will be paying for the Iraq War 20 years longer than me. :D
     
  8. DigitalWarrior

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    One of the funniest things I ever saw on "The Daily Show" was a repubican get just destroyed by Jon.

    Jon: where did the statistic that "the most liberal voting record in a long Senate career" come from.

    Repub: There are poeple who study this sort of thing by examining blah, blah, blah.

    Jon: But where specifically, like which magazine, did the statistic that "the most liberal voting record in a long Senate career" come from.

    Repub: There are lots of them.

    Jon: Name one

    Repub: They are from both the left and right, you know people look at voting records, blah, blah, blah.

    Jon: which one.
     
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    RWK, where did this come from "the most liberal voting record in a long Senate career"?
     
  10. GSB

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    I think Croyance has nailed it.
     
  11. RevDisk

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    I see both candidates as being equally bad people. I guess facts on both sides don't really matter anymore.

    The way I see it, there are pro-Kerry folks, pro-Bush folks and then a bunch of people in the middle that can't decide which candidate is more horrible.

    I wonder when we'll get better choices.
     
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    Digital,

    This has been widely reported on both MSNBC and Fox News. I cannot say I have analyzed the votes Kerry has cast, but what riveted my attention was Kerry's voting record was evaluated as "more liberal" than even Ted Kennedy's. Also, highlighted was Kerry’s flagrant absenteeism – the worst in the US Senate.
     
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    F rating from the GOA.
    F rating from the NRA.
    A rating from Handgun Control Inc.

    There are websites that track the conservative or liberal votes on politicians. If you're interested do a search.
     
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    $300 isn't a tax break. It's a kick to the groin.
     
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    I cannot help but think that many people are rabidly anti-Kerry because it is too difficult to be pro-Bush. The main decision in this election is which candidate sucks less than the other, not which is best. Kinda like in the 70's when in high school we'd argue about which was better, a Pinto or a Vega.
     
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    :rolleyes:


    In that case, I'll take a few more kicks to the groin, please.
     
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    Who says there are sides...
     
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    Rats! I thought this had something to do with friendly fire off of Martha's Vineyard.
     
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    KERRY IS SUNK

    Ya, a night drive with Ted.
     
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    Boy, you guys who say 'Kerry is Sunk", or "Kerry is finished".... Could you tell me how you come to this inspiring conclusion. I guess you don't believe the polls that show Kerry edging ahead of Bush already, as Kerry of late has gained a lot of ground in popularity and trust with the American people.

    If you ask me, I'd bet that Bush is sunk, not Kerry! You can't win with less than 50% of the people behind you.
     
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    Sure ya can. Bush already did it once and Clinton did it twice! :)
     
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    Libya gathered material for weapons building, then admitted to it and denounced terrorism to get back into the international community. Bush did not do this. It is only a strategic move that may not have meaning - what is said and done are two different things.
    Must suck to be North Korean and not worthy of freedom. Before you get your back up about this, tell me who was clearly ahead in the nuclear game in 2000?
    Iraq was a problem that should have been dealt with when promised, when George HW Bush said. Clinton should have dealt with it when Saddam was starting to build credibility with his former enemies, the muslims. The intelligence gathering act of watching Middle Eastern TV and reading their newpapers would have given that away. A whole world of problems openned up because two presidents did nothing drastic.
    You must know better than that. Have realistic expectations and you will live a happier life. At least you will have a life less unhappy and stressed.
     
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    It may be a regional thing but EVERYONE around the upper Ohio Valley (battle ground area) who has heard or seen this commercial is shocked! Heap big medicine for our Great White Father.
     
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