kind of confused please help me out.

[gmalfavon1]

okay guys I'm 17 almost 18 but when I start carrying I oviously have to OC but Im starting to like the idea of appendix carrying but was thinking of getting a IWB holster, so here my question could I appendix carry having only the handle of the gun sticking out of the WB of my pants and tucking my shirt behind it. This is still considered OC right?

Thanks
Mike

 

[average_shooter]

I believe that depends on individual state law.

I may be wrong, however I believe some states allow that the grip must be showing, some I believe require that the majority of the firearm be showing (like with an OWB holster, it would be obvious that there's a gun on the person's hip), and I think some state laws require a certain amount of surface area of the firearm to be visible.

My concern with using an IWB holster and tucking the shirt behind is that the shirt can become untucked and end up "concealing" the grip and all of a sudden you're running afoul of the law. It would be my recommendation, as someone who has carried both openly and concealed, that if you are going to OC invest in a good OWB holster with some sort of retention system.

EDIT TO ADD:

From OpenCarry.org (http://opencarry.org/az.html)

Link to AZ state law:

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ArizonaRevisedStatutes.asp

I'm thinking the answer may be somewhere in Title 13, Chapter 31, which deals with "Weapons and Explosives." At least, that's the section containing information regarding concealed carry.

 

[geekWithA.45]

Make sure you're squared away for basic independent posses ion of a handgun at all in your state before worrying about carriage.

Independent possession of handguns for people under 21 is often prohibited or restricted by state laws.

 

[average_shooter]

It appears the most relevant statute (from what I can tell, but "IANAL") is 13-3102 "Misconduct involving weapons; defenses; classification; definitions" Subsection F (13-3102 found here) :

F. Subsection A, paragraph 1 of this section shall not apply to a weapon or weapons carried in a belt holster that is wholly or partially visible, or carried in a scabbard or case designed for carrying weapons that is wholly or partially visible or carried in luggage. Subsection A, paragraph 2 of this section shall not apply to a weapon or weapons carried in a case, holster, scabbard, pack or luggage that is carried within a means of transportation or within a storage compartment, map pocket, trunk or glove compartment of a means of transportation.

From other parts of the criminal code it appears that "juvenile" or "minor" is defined as being 14-17 years old. I could only find solid restriction on the carrying of firearms by persons under the age of 18. There doesn't really appear to be mention of carry by persons between the ages of 18 and 21.

 

[gmalfavon1]

I'm in Az and I can legally OC at 18

 

[Tom S.]

Asking for legal advice on the internet can get you into a world of trouble. You could have 200 people tell you it's ok, but none of them will help pay your bail or legal defense. Contact your local police department and ask them. Make sure to note who you are talking too, date and time too.

 

[wep45]

you best contact the law enforcement organizations in arizona and specifically in maricopa county

 

[Duke of Doubt]

It is state by state. In Maine, you can open-carry by tucking a pistol into your rear waistband, so long as the handle is exposed. That does not, of course, mean you can do that just anywhere, or that you will not be stopped and questioned. Ultimately I found it easier to get my permit to carry concealed firearms.

 

[Jim K]

Amen on internet advice. The problem in asking the cops is that most of them won't know either and will either hassle you or give you bad advice out of ignorance.

Read the law and the prededents or get a state handbook if there is such a thing.

Jim

 

[expvideo]

It is state by state. In Maine, you can open-carry by tucking a pistol into your rear waistband, so long as the handle is exposed. That does not, of course, mean you can do that just anywhere, or that you will not be stopped and questioned. Ultimately I found it easier to get my permit to carry concealed firearms.

Very true. A good example of this is WA state, where open carry is legal but case law dictates that if you aren't using a holster it "warrants alarm" and is illegal. So just tucking it into the back of your pants in WA state would be illegal, even though doing the same thing in Maine is perfectly fine.