Kinda nice...Kinda weird...Kinda annoying RO.

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My dad was in ten major battles of WWII (doesn't include small batttles) and never once mentioned shooting another person. My oldest brother was in Vietnam and never once mentioned shooting another person.

Sounds like the RO is an overgrown mall ninja.
 
I used to kill empty winchester ammo boxes at 100yrds with my 1911 for money at my old range.

Someone would start saying how you couldn't hit x at y with a handgun like that so I'd bet them $$$ that i could. Sometimes I could pay for my ammo for the day doing that.

I liked practicing at that range, i figured that if i could hit something that small at that range I'd have no problem hitting something across a room.

Doesn't mean you have to though shoot how you feel comfortable.
 
my club has at 100 yards many plates sized 18 inches to 6. many of the shooters there try for them & most have hits. some of us quite regularly on even the 6 inch one. my Kimber, S&W 60 & lol a 60 year old $100 cz52 shooting 10 cent ammo is the best. at 1500 fps, it shoots to poa, 100 yards.
 
I've only spoken to two gentlemen who were in combat in Vietnam and the defining characteristic I noticed in my small sample was an unwillingness to get into details, numbers or specifics.

It all depends on the person. I've known vets who talked about their experiences with a bit of humor (i.e. "I shot the guy with my M14 and he kept getting up, so why are people glorifying it") while making a point. I've known those who discussed it in negative contexts (having been wounded or alleging to have been involved in a war crime). I've also known two helicopter gunners who didn't mind talking about it in the least.
 
Just ask him to bring his guns out next time and have him show you how its done at the 50.
 
I suspect in thirty years we will have fake Iraq Vets as well. There will always be the wanna be. My dad was on the ground with the infantry in Vietnam. His best man died there. Went on to have 30 years with the Army. Never talked about the war except for minor mentions with great deal of prodding. My grandfather was the same about WWII. He kept his significant dislike of the Japanese till the end but did not go into details.

I've yet to go to the Wake range though I have only heard good things personally. As for the longer range pistol work- one of the guys I've done IDPA with suggests long range work to make the short range work seem easier when completing. "Train long, shoot short" I believe he said
 
My old boss told me two stories of Vietname...

The first was that he remembered the enemy in broken english charging him saying, "we kill you Americans"....that was the extent of that story but kinda gave me the picture of how close he was...

The second story was when he told me how he "knew" he was coming home....His unit stopped and started setting up camp, and there was a saying, kinda like lightening doesn't strike twice in one spot, well artillary doesn't hit the same spot twice either. He found a hole from a shell under a nice shade tree where he decided to start making his foxhole. Well his SGT who didn't like him much decided the shade tree was a nice place to set up the command center and kicked him out to the middle of the field with no shade. He told me how he cussed the SGT the whole time but later that evening/night they were attacked. An artillery shell hit the SGTs command center dead on and killed the SGT instantly. My boss told me that at this point, he knew he was going to make it out of Vietnam alive. Even though the SGT had bad luck, he felt like someone was watching out for him.
 
Buzz Knox:

Like I said, I'm working from a very small sample, so it's hardly a definitive statement. I can definitely understand not wanting to talk about any wartime experience, as warfare does not seem conducive to fond memories.
 
50 yards is long range?

I must admit that I am a bit puzzled by this thread. What is so hard about pistol shooting at 50 meters/yards? Most of the posters appear to think that a pistol is useless at hitting a man-sized target at over 15 yards. :confused:

The standard NRA pistol match is conducted with slow fire at 50 yards, with timed and rapid fire at 25 yards. The "10" ring is approximately 3" in diameter. Way back in the last century when I shot competitively, I regularly shot in the low 90's to high 80's at 50 yards with the 1911 in .45 acp and I tended to be one of the lower scorers in most of my matches. [NOTE: This is NOT a brag, just a statement of fact.]

Granted, this is not combat shooting but still takes skill and concentration. It certainly isn't magic to hit what you are aiming at. If you can't keep all your rounds in the silhouette outline of an IPSC Action Pistol Target at 25 yards, you need to slow down and concentrate on sight picture, grip and trigger control.

Am I missing something?
 
Shooting at 50m/yards with a handgun isn't much to me at all, neither is it to my uncle. We regularly shoot at that distance. He used to shoot bullsye, and yes there is a 50m slow fire. Just do it and practice.. It's nice to be able to do that as well, it's just another skill to add to your list! :)
 
I suspect in thirty years we will have fake Iraq Vets as well.

We already have them. There are OIF posers all over, as well as REMF's who claim to have been where they haven't, and done things they couldn't have.
 
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