K Robinson
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Please view the attaches video link and let me know what you think.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGaFlSeos1E&sns=em
Kydex- Snag Tool/TIE Sheath in action (Video Link)
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1) The cameraman needs more training.
2) The knife carrier needs a CCW. His effective range is about 36", and stopping power is very low.
Blade deploying sheaths have been around for decades, notably for the Buck 110. Many gunshow cowboys seem to have one to flick constantly during the dull moments that quickly descend on their lamp and jerky display.
Doing that with kerambits just shows that it can be done. They're a specific defense knife with a dedicated style of use. In other words, a lousy EDC and even worse utility knife, unless you install carpeting. You can buy one, better train diligently for a few years.
On a more practical point, just exactly what does this do that a clipped locking folder can't? In terms of use by the average reasonable man, the incremental increase in ability to defend oneself - if any - can't be exercised. The average guy carrying a knife is a workman, not a trained martial artist with dragons branded into his forearms. A calm demeanor and practiced motions aren't stock in trade against a meth perp.
He's better off with a CCW, most states are shall issue. And if you're doing it right, you won't need it.
2) The knife carrier needs a CCW. His effective range is about 36", and stopping power is very low.
Blade deploying sheaths have been around for decades, notably for the Buck 110. Many gunshow cowboys seem to have one to flick constantly during the dull moments that quickly descend on their lamp and jerky display.
Doing that with kerambits just shows that it can be done. They're a specific defense knife with a dedicated style of use. In other words, a lousy EDC and even worse utility knife, unless you install carpeting. You can buy one, better train diligently for a few years.
On a more practical point, just exactly what does this do that a clipped locking folder can't? In terms of use by the average reasonable man, the incremental increase in ability to defend oneself - if any - can't be exercised. The average guy carrying a knife is a workman, not a trained martial artist with dragons branded into his forearms. A calm demeanor and practiced motions aren't stock in trade against a meth perp.
He's better off with a CCW, most states are shall issue. And if you're doing it right, you won't need it.
Deploying backwards to open a folder is a huge disadvantage because you're deploying away from the threat.
Take a look at the "speed dialer" that John carried and you'll see that pulling straight out of the sheath and opening the knife is a lot like the draw stroke for a handgun.
A folder that is carried locked open is considered a violation of fixed blade laws in many jurisdictions. Carrying a folder as a fixed blade means you've spent the additional money of the folding/locking mechanism for a knife that is more complex and probably weaker than the fixed blade equivalent.
These are interesting ideas, but in the case of the folder/fixed blade carry it is a solution looking for a problem and in the case of the rearwards draw puts the user further behind the curve in reacting to a threat.
Take a look at the "speed dialer" that John carried and you'll see that pulling straight out of the sheath and opening the knife is a lot like the draw stroke for a handgun.
A folder that is carried locked open is considered a violation of fixed blade laws in many jurisdictions. Carrying a folder as a fixed blade means you've spent the additional money of the folding/locking mechanism for a knife that is more complex and probably weaker than the fixed blade equivalent.
These are interesting ideas, but in the case of the folder/fixed blade carry it is a solution looking for a problem and in the case of the rearwards draw puts the user further behind the curve in reacting to a threat.
K Robinson
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Thanks guys for your input.
TimboKhan
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It seems like a solution looking for a problem. I kind of agree with Tirod in that I really don't get what this will do that a folder can't.
More to the point, this has the drawback of adding complexity to the situation. Watching the video, you apparently have to unsafe that sheathe to draw the knife which is great in terms of retention and safety. Horrible in terms of adding a potential stumbling block to getting the knife out of the sheathe. Plus, it seems like it actually makes the knife more consipicous.
Anyway, kind of neat, but not my cup of tea.
More to the point, this has the drawback of adding complexity to the situation. Watching the video, you apparently have to unsafe that sheathe to draw the knife which is great in terms of retention and safety. Horrible in terms of adding a potential stumbling block to getting the knife out of the sheathe. Plus, it seems like it actually makes the knife more consipicous.
Anyway, kind of neat, but not my cup of tea.
I'll admit it's an improvement over the failed CRKT "Merlin," (which I still have somewhere) but just like that item it makes me a little nervous about carrying one. These devices that allow the drawing of a folder seem to have some safety issues, including if you were to fall on it or if the handle were to accidentally get caught on something and pulled out.
I'm of the school of thought (and others may disagree) that when you use a folder for defense, you should open two handed if possible, even if the knife has a thumb-stud or hole. Any movements should be deliberate and very simple, without the need for any fine motor control. Adrenaline really screws up your ability to make precise movements. I once had to cut someone's clothing loose from some machinery (with that person panicked and shrieking) and I definitely would not have been able to get the blade out with any fancy one-handed trick.
Btw, devices like this are illegal to carry in Massachusetts.
I'm of the school of thought (and others may disagree) that when you use a folder for defense, you should open two handed if possible, even if the knife has a thumb-stud or hole. Any movements should be deliberate and very simple, without the need for any fine motor control. Adrenaline really screws up your ability to make precise movements. I once had to cut someone's clothing loose from some machinery (with that person panicked and shrieking) and I definitely would not have been able to get the blade out with any fancy one-handed trick.
Btw, devices like this are illegal to carry in Massachusetts.
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