Law enforcement ammo

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raiderred11k

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So this might be a dumb question... But I was trying to find some Federal HST on the net and found some post somewhere that said that places that sell HST will only sell to law enforcement. So my question is... is it against the law at all to purchase or posses law enforcement ammo without being in law enforcement or is it just a dumb rule for that website? I live in Texas.
 
...is it against the law at all to purchase or posses law enforcement ammo without being in law enforcement or is it just a dumb rule for that website?
It's just a policy set by ammo makers-Winchester has previously been the most strict, but it looks like Federal is trying to copy 'em? (I also have a couple of ARs with 'For LE Use Only' stamped on the side).

Some sellers are threatened with being cut off if they sell to non-LEO, and since the general public does not deal in the bulk of LE agencies, they're now trying to foist those 20/25 round personal defense boxes on the public at the same price (or more) as 50 round LE boxes-don't fall for it.

Shop/ask around in your area-mabe visit some police supply houses etc in order to find the 'LE Only' ammo.
You can also tell Federal and Winchester to take a hike, and go with Speer Gold Dots. Speer seems to be the most friendly to the general public with their offerings, and there's no reason to believe the others are any better than Gold Dots, which are still used by many in LE.
 
It isn't illegal. Neither is the 5.7mm that everyone thinks is. It is just restricted by the manufacturers. Some of this is just marketing --call it LE and everyone will want it. Anyway, it is out there and not a problem to purchase.

I can get the T-Series right down the street in all flavors and types, plus the Ranger 9mm +P+ 115gr. I'm sure I could get the HST also, but I haven't looked for it, and that particular store doesn't have it, at least I don't think. I'm happy with these T-Series (the new Black Talon round, which all media hype aside, is a great bullet). My wife carries them in 124gr.+P in a G17. I use the 165gr. .40 in a G27, and the 230gr. .45 in a G21. Everything else I handload exclusively. They've pretty much chrono'd the box numbers for me too, albeit a little less in the G27.

My advice is to look around at local shops and online. There are some places that do this online, and somebody will probably come along that buys them online and point you in the right direction.

You can also find this stuff at gunshows. But look around to find good prices, lately when I go to gunshows they have these ridiculous prices (on everything) so ridiculous I might not renew my membership this year. Old Glocks for new prices, 30rd. very used FAL mags for $85? No more cool collections, but more new junk dealers (teddy bears, trinkets, garbage). Why bother? Rant done.

And like the other fellow said, Speer Gold Dot. You can't go wrong with those, especially the 200gr.+P .45ACP. I think the ones I have are LE marked, and maybe that is why they are +P. I don't know, but that thing opens up like an inch or more! I haven't used the 9mm, but as long as you get the lighter bullets in +P, they should be every bit as good as the HST or T-Series. Certainly in that league. CorBon is another one. Their plain jacketed hollowpoint bullets are pretty hot, not much different from the LE stuff. The Barnes bullet versions are VERY expensive, and in my opinion, not worth it. Anyway, they used to use an XTP bullet, then I heard a Nosler? Not sure. Whatever they use, they work. I've used and carried CorBon for a long time too, before switching to the T-Series, and I did that simply for cost and close availability.

Hornady has some new stuff, their critical defense line, and their XTP is a great bullet, known for penetration, but sometimes it won't open up well. Especially at low velocities, which is where they load their 9mm at. Maybe their new bullet with the plastic tip fixed this. But they may have some hotter stuff, look into them as well. I don't know of a more accurate hollowpoint in general than the XTP, and I bet that new one is good to go too. I load a lot of the XTP's for just that, accuracy, and it is my preferred handload period in 10mm.

Lots of choices, just because it says LE doesn't really mean much. You just want a good bullet going at the fastest speed you can get for that particular round. If you can get CorBon local for cheap, I'd go that route. That is good ammo that seldom lets down, although it suffers a bit in accuracy due to the fact they hotrod it. Their 115gr.+P 9mm goes 1350fps, and the 115gr.+P+ LE Ranger (non-T-Series) goes about the same, maybe 1375. Both are smoking hot, both are the same really. In this case, I actually like the CorBon bullet better than the Winchester Silvertip.
 
Yeah I found the ammo I'm looking for on Gunboker.com. They say that they will only ship to FFL. And I didn't want to order it and the FFL be like "you cant own this", or just not let me have it. Do ya'll think something like that would happen?
 
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