Lawyer: Heller Says Felons Can Have Guns At Home For Protection

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I don't think I like this lawyer's idea. And Whisnant, his client doesn't seem deserving of any special consideration. SCOTUS didn't have a turd like him in mind in its ruling.




Felon pushes gun rights
Motion filed by slaying suspect in light of recent high court decision


By Jamie Satterfield (Contact)
Thursday, July 31, 2008


http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/31/felon-pushes-gun-rights/

An accused Scott County killer contends a recent landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision affirming an individual's right to go armed opens the door for an attack on a federal law that bars felons from possessing guns in their own homes.

A motion filed in U.S. District Court by defense attorney Alex Brown on behalf of felon and slaying suspect Douglas V. Whisnant puts the 61-year-old Whisnant at the forefront of a nationwide move to have declared unconstitutional gun control laws aimed at felons.

Brown joins defense attorneys in federal courts throughout the United States who are using the June decision by the nation's high court striking down gun control laws in Washington, D.C., to launch an attack on a federal law that strips felons of the right to go armed.

Whisnant was arraigned Tuesday on a beefed-up indictment prepared by Assistant U.S. Attorney Ed Schmutzer that accuses the Scott County felon of illegally possessing a cache of guns, including a machine gun, found hidden in a hidey-hole in his wall.

The guns were discovered as part of Tennessee Bureau of Investigation Agent Steve Vinsant's probe into the February 2007 disappearance of Whisnant's ex-wife, Jean Johnson, 66. Vinsant has since charged Whisnant with killing Johnson, although her body has not been found.

Brown contends the U.S. Supreme Court has breathed new life into efforts to strike down as unconstitutional gun control efforts targeting felons.

In June, the nation's high court ruled that the Second Amendment granted an individual the right to bear arms for "traditionally lawful purposes, such as self defense within the home." It is known as the Heller decision, so named for the Washington, D.C., police officer who challenged that city's requirement that guns be registered and kept unloaded and dissembled in the home.

In a narrow 5-4 decision, justices led by conservative Justice Antonin Scalia struck down as unconstitutional gun control laws that ban handgun possession in the home. Brown contends that the right to bear arms at home for self defense should be extended to felons.

"A felon who has a firearm in his home for his own protection is not a danger to the public, as a felon who possesses a firearm in public would be," Brown wrote. "Based on the Heller opinion, the defense argues that even if Mr. Whisnant could be banned from having weapons in public, he would still have the right to have such weapons in the privacy of his own home."

Brown acknowledged in his motion that Scalia wrote in the landmark decision that the court's opinion "should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill."

However, he said the court stopped short of declaring those laws constitutional. The law banning felons from gun possession is flawed because it does not delineate between going armed in public and in private, Brown argued.

Schmutzer has not yet had time to respond to Brown's motion. It will be up to U.S. District Judge Bruce Guyton to decide the issue.
 
There's no chance in hades on that one. The Supreme Court has upheld a long list of rights that felons lose upon conviction.
 
Loser appeals like that wouldn't even make the news if someone didn't have an agenda to promote.

In this case, it appears to be "Look out! Felons are going to get guns because the Supreme Court interpreted the Second Amendment as it was written!"
 
Wishful thinking on the felon's part and a lawyer who'll go along as a mouthpiece. No chance in lowers courts and if it gets to SCOTUS they'll deny cert.
 
If the lawyer didnt try every possible avenue to help his client he wouldnt be doing his job.

Kharn
 
I don't think the lawyer is reading Heller correctly, but in principal I have to agree with him. Remember, all he's talking about is keeping a firearm in the home for self-defense. I'm old enough that my middle school Social Studies taught us that prison time was "paying your debt to society." Once a felon has been released from prison (and any parole period satisfactorily completed), in theory they have "paid their debt."

So why should they be deprived of what we claim is a fundamental, God-given (or natural) right?

If we can't trust them with a gun in the nightstand, why the heck are we letting them out of prison?
 
I'll get slammed for this but what the heck;

I think after a certain peroid of time depending on the conviction, the person should be able to get the right to have a firearm back......

How about we take the right away to drive or own a vehicle period if your convicted of DWI or DUI......:eek:
 
I noticed that the writer for Knox News promoted Dick Heller to police officer.
Congrats in your new job, Dick.

I wonder what else the writer got wrong (me being sarcastic here).
 
Felons with guns!

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(of course, they could get a gat off the street...but hey)

Actually, non-violent offenders I do not mind if they get 2nd amendment rights if they stay clean for 10 years. Rapists, murders, nada... Kinda like voting...
 
a recent landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision affirming an individual's right to go armed
Right in the first sentence the reporter gets it seriously wrong. Not much point in reading beyond that.
 
This ship will sink in the harbor. I wouldn't really mind if it went through, if someone's too dangerous to vote or own guns, they should still be inside. And they certainly shouldn't have a driver's license... but it's not going anywhere.
 
I think 90% of us agree that we should redo the system so you either serve you time and get out a free man, or are locked up forever because you are a danger to society.
 
So why should they be deprived of what we claim is a fundamental, God-given (or natural) right?

Well, it doesn't mention the type of felony that Whisant was convicted of to lose his rights (it just mentions he has since been charged with the murder of his wife); but at the time of our founding, violent felonies like murder would have meant the death penalty in many cases.

I don't see anything wrong with "executing" the rights of a felon as a citizen if the decision is made to commute their sentence to something less than life imprisonment or death.
 
That's increasingly the problem.

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Got one ... made after '94 ... in NY? Yer a felon.
See, that wasn't hard, but good bye RKBA ...
 
I don't see anything wrong with "executing" the rights of a felon as a citizen if the decision is made to commute their sentence to something less than life imprisonment or death.

Does that mean that all felonies should incur a sentence of death or life in prison? If not, should rights be restored upon completion of harsh sentences for less serious felonies such as possessing a firearm with obliterated markings or possessing a flashing barricade light stolen from a construction zone? How about getting a certain amount or more behind in child support payments?
 
I have no problems with felons not have the same rights as normal citizens, now I will agree that too many crimes are felonies, but that is to another debate.

I will say that I would find it acceptable that felons have some way to petition for rights back, (including RKBA) opon ending of probation. Handle it like a probation board where a hearing will be held within 90 days of the being asked to review the case, and if denied, then the person could make a new request in two years.
 
felons were able to exercise one of their rights prior to becoming felons. It is called due process.

If you don't like this, don't break the law.
 
I agree with Aquila. Prison is where you hold people as punishment and until they are ready for return to society.

Furthermore, I feel the government likes making us criminals. It gives them more control. Your tax return is a great place to start. Round off your tips? Tsk Tsk Felon(1). Every waitress/waiter/bartender/pizza deliveryman (except me) would be denied the right to bear arms with applause from the peanut gallery.

1. http://www.enotes.com/everyday-law-encyclopedia/tax-evasion
 
It is called due process.

Ahhh yes. Due Process. That would be the mechanism by which we all end up defending ourselves with Wiffle ball bats and butter knives. Good thing your a fan of due process because we're all about to get a big ol' heapin' helpin' of it in the form of "reasonable restrictions" as defined by Diane, endorsed by Nancy, and served up hot and fresh by Obama.

Some folks just can't see the forest for the trees.
 
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