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I went and picked my new lc9s up from my FFL yesterday at lunch time. I didn't have time to even open the box last night. I'm truly surprised at how nice the trigger is. I haven't had time to go shoot it yet but this has a nice clean trigger which makes me think it will be a dream to shoot. Has a very long reset on it but I don't think that's going to be a problem.
 
Aggravating procedure to field strip the gun. You have to be a contortionist to get the spring loaded slide in just the right spot to slip the retaining pin out. Kind of a stupid design. Beside that, no other complaints. Great gun.
 
Really like mine for summer carry. Good shooter. Trigger is great. Some think too light, but I disagree. That’s countered by the longer yet smooth pull. For the price I think it’s great.
 
Aggravating procedure to field strip the gun. You have to be a contortionist to get the spring loaded slide in just the right spot to slip the retaining pin out. Kind of a stupid design. Beside that, no other complaints. Great gun.
Agreed. Also,, if you carry IWB make sure to clean it often. Mine doesn't like sweat.
The ergos, trigger, weight and shootability are perfect for me. More than worth the few irritations.
 
I love mine. It's my EDC year round.

The break down really isn't bad at all. No different than many other pistols that require you to pull the slide back a bit to take apart.

In fact, it's only slightly more involved than a "Glock like" take down. Really not even worth talking about.


The trigger and how well it shoots far outways the meager extra takedown steps.
 
Ditto on the sweat issue. My son had the slide and trigger coated to eliminate the rust issue. He has pretty acidic sweat I guess...
No problems since!
 
The break down really isn't bad at all. No different than many other pistols that require you to pull the slide back a bit to take apart.

In fact, it's only slightly more involved than a "Glock like" take down. Really not even worth talking about.
I'll certainly agree it's not a deal breaker in choosing a pistol, but I've personally never considered "Glockish" because while holding the slide partially back, one needs an additional tool to punch out the pin. The close tolerances make it a little harder because you can't see to line up the slide on the left while punching the pin from the right.

By all means, not big enough deal to avoid this gun.
 
I've have owned and carried one for a few years now and really like the 9s. It is accurate,has a great trigger and is light enough to carry without really noticing it. I like my Colt Commander,but it gets to feel heavy really quickly. I find it likes a heaver bullet like 135gr,I use Critical Duty.
The only thing that bothers me about this pistol is how cheap they are now compared to what I paid when they first came out. The new one with the sights machined into the slide is a great pistol for the price.
 
I've have owned and carried one for a few years now and really like the 9s. It is accurate,has a great trigger and is light enough to carry without really noticing it. I like my Colt Commander,but it gets to feel heavy really quickly. I find it likes a heaver bullet like 135gr,I use Critical Duty.
The only thing that bothers me about this pistol is how cheap they are now compared to what I paid when they first came out. The new one with the sights machined into the slide is a great pistol for the price.

I love my G26, but I can't stand IWB carry in general, and especially carrying that brick. Some days I can carry it comfortably for a while, some days I can't no matter what I try, it sucks when sitting or driving, and the bottom line is, it's a sometimes carry, not EDC for me. It is perfectly fine OWB, but there's few occasions when I can do it even in winter - throughout the day, I will need to get the coat off in different places.

After getting LCP and realizing just how much difference the few tens of an inch make, I am seriously starting to think of LC9s, as it seems like one of the thinnest 9mm, and also fairly inexpensive (I don't plan on selling my Glocks).
 
Aggravating procedure to field strip the gun. You have to be a contortionist to get the spring loaded slide in just the right spot to slip the retaining pin out. Kind of a stupid design. Beside that, no other complaints. Great gun.
Really? My not being a circus contortionist, I still find it easier to field strip than just about anything else out there. My LC9sPro is just about flawless, in every respect. I rather found the slide removal was quite easy, compared to others. Stupid design: NOT.
 
Really? My not being a circus contortionist, I still find it easier to field strip than just about anything else out there. My LC9sPro is just about flawless, in every respect. I rather found the slide removal was quite easy, compared to others. Stupid design: NOT.

If it's the same principle as LCP, it's only aggravating feature is the takedown pin that needs a small assist tool. Other than that, it's just as easy to field strip as my Glocks. Now, detailed stripping may be more complicated because of the hammer spring. But I wouldn't call the design too difficult.

I absolutely love Glocks for reliability and simplicity, but they need a slim model. G43 ain't it, unfortunately.
 
My LC9s just fits.

I looked at the picture of the Nano. I might hold one if I saw it in my LGS, but I am so happy with the shootability, pocketability, and weight of my LC9s that I’m not going to make a special effort.
 
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Most semi-auto pistols don’t require you to compress the slide against a spring to just the exactly right position to remove the retaining pin. A third hand would help. That is all.
 
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As I have said in other post that I have years of shooting the LC9 pistols. And let me be clear on the fact that they are excellent firearms. The Nano is super easy to take down, but the Ruger is very easy as well, especially if you have taken one down as many times as I have. It does take a little more time, and you have to line up the pin and hole, but it becomes second nature very easy to do.I could probably do it blind folded. If fact, I just broke down each gun last night. I was measuring differences in the two guns and weighing different parts, like the receiver, barrel, thickness of barrel, grip and dimensions etc. I plan on doing a complete pictorial of the difference in the two guns this summer.
A few weeks ago, I went to the range with a few buddies and we shot both guns side by side with different ammo. 100 rounds with the Nano, then 100 rounds with the Ruger. and repeat. Both shot flawlessly. Both are as accurate as the shooter. However the Ruger does have quite a bit more recoil and especially muzzle flip. We found the Nano easier to get back on target. While I have been shooting the Nano quite a bit in the past few months, I have found that the Nano feels better with the grip. It feels more solid to hold. In fact I did not realize all these years that the Ruger actually does not feels not as solid as I thought.
The Nano really loves Hot Ammo and Plus P. That is where it shines. I have shot the LC9 so long for so many years, I have always felt the recoil to be light and even though it had a noticeable muzzle filp it is a great shooter. But after shooting a lot of rounds that day, I noticed that the Ruger started to give me discomfort, most especially with hotter ammo. I mean it was a distinct discomfort (not pain), The Nano however, felt as if I could go on shooting the rest of the day with no problems.

Triggers are alway's a subjective thing. My LC9S is measured at around 4 lbs. of pull especially light on the final very short and quick break. The nano has a little longer pull and and a 6.1 lb trigger. I have a range buddy that has been shooting his and has broken in to around 5-5.5 lbs. I actually prefer the nano trigger for Carry. And on fast shooting both performed well. The LC9s would be well suited for target work, if that is what you like. I do not target shoot my Carry guns and I personally NEVER ride a reset.

I posted before some pics for comparison. While both are great guns, the Nano is really built like a tank. Everything from take down pins, to the extractor, barrel ,recoil guide rod assembly etc. It was designed for the 40. cal and the pressures of the 40.cal.
And of course it is a modular design which I really like.
Example
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Barrel is really thick. Weighs quite a bit more than the Ruger.

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I will do a big review this summer with a lot of pics between a number of micro 9mms and hopefully some shooting videos.

But getting back to the OP. Congrats on the LC9S. They are terrific guns, very reliable and a whole lot of fun to shoot. It will serve you well for years to come. I highly recommend them. Sadly, I believe they are being discontinued, as they are not listed on their website any longer. So you were able to get one now. I guess they will still carry the buget gun at least for a while. I have no idea what they will come out with next. but the LC9S is IMO almost a legend.
 
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I believe the EC9S is replacing the LC9S. Truth be told, it makes sense. If you can produce the same gun (well, 95% of it) at a dramatic cost savings, why would gun shops waste shelf space on a more expensive model that will just sit there.

I don't doubt that the LC9S sporting nicer sights are sweeter to shoot, but for point-n-shoot self defense, milled in sights with a dot of orange paint works just fine on mine.

I used to have a Nano, and I have to admit that I really liked the trigger. I think for many shooters, it's a love it or hate thing, to be honest. If you want a crisp break, the Nano isn't for you. What I liked about it was the almost squeeze-bottle feel to it. It had positive resistance like a nice revolver trigger. Certainly didn't feel like a typical striker.

I would give the Nano another shot if the EC9S wasn't performing so well for me.
 
How does it compare to G26 ?
It is closer to the G43. In fact I sold both my G26 and G43 after buying the Ruger. It is a 7+1 single stack that is only slightly bigger than the G43. I shoot mine so much better than either the G26 or G43 that I just couldn't justify keeping them. I still shoot the larger G19 a little better, but only a little.

I can get the LC9s locally for $259 OTD, the EC9s is only $20 less. I'm seriously considering picking up another. I did buy a 9 round magazine for it. It is still carryable with it, but I think that magazine will be the spare.

FWIW I also had one of the original LC9's. I couldn't get used to the trigger and sold it.
 
I believe the EC9S is replacing the LC9S. Truth be told, it makes sense. If you can produce the same gun (well, 95% of it) at a dramatic cost savings, why would gun shops waste shelf space on a more expensive model that will just sit there.

I don't doubt that the LC9S sporting nicer sights are sweeter to shoot, but for point-n-shoot self defense, milled in sights with a dot of orange paint works just fine on mine.

I used to have a Nano, and I have to admit that I really liked the trigger. I think for many shooters, it's a love it or hate thing, to be honest. If you want a crisp break, the Nano isn't for you. What I liked about it was the almost squeeze-bottle feel to it. It had positive resistance like a nice revolver trigger. Certainly didn't feel like a typical striker.

I would give the Nano another shot if the EC9S wasn't performing so well for me.

If for some reason you decide to sell your Nano, would you keep me in mind? I am looking to pick up a second one. I do this with certain guns I like, carry often and shoot frequently. I can understand that you might just want to keep it. I will still keep my LC9S. It would be hard to replace for the cost they are going for right now. And I have about a dozen magazines and some nice holsters. And although I prefer the Nano I still enjoy taking the LC9S to the range. Reply
I bought my Nano on sale for $300.00 with free shipping. Right after I did this, the sale was going on and Beretta offered a $75.00 rebate. Dang that was heck of a deal. Now they are right back up there in Price at around $375-$400. I am hoping mid summer they will do the same offer.
The Nano got some bad reviews when they first came out about 7 years ago on the first run guns. Some had a problem shooting 115 gr ammo from what I understand. Certainly not the case now. But most Beretta guns do not get many reviews in the first place. And not many out there in the past 3 years. For one they do not do much advertising. I know that for what ever reason, Beretta does not cater to the mass of new shooters. They build a fine gun and they are proud of their product and let those that shoot often and shoot them to be the best judge. I saw the same thing with the Pico. One of the best quality pocket guns out there. And no they are not for everyone.
Beretta has been around for 500 years. They march to a different drummer for sure. Fortunately for me, I found them and am on their band wagon.
Guns are like shoes. One size does not fit all. Even when the right size, some will not like the feel, some will love the feel. Great that in America we have so many choices.

As far as the trigger, the Nano is a striker fired gun and the trigger is described by them as a "Double Action". To me, it is a cross between the two. It was exactly what I was looking for, 6.1 lbs but feels less. and very smooth. But as you said, some will only want the very light crisp triggers. But do not listen to me, Hey, I love the trigger on the Ruger LCR9mm and can shoot very well with the LCR22 which is much heavier.

The bottom line will always be how fast and accurate you can punch holes in center mass. I feel I can do this very well with both guns. But just better with the Nano.

Two great single stacks

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