NYC, all new officers started being "issued" 9's back in 1993. A conversion took place to all existing over 3 years or so. It was not mandatory but most converted once the cost was picked up by the department. If you see a blue steel gun out there they are past their 20. I still have my 3" Model 64 NYPD-1 in the locker, no longer authorized in place of a Sig 226. SP101, 64 2" and 640 were authorized "off duty" till recently (3-4 years). I still have my 640, not giving that up, and it is authorized, carry it 24/7. For new guys and gals there are a few smaller 9's to chose from for that role, none are "five for sure" though. Bill