Lead flat nose vs lead round nose flat point

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Aren't lead flat nose and lead round nose flat point the same thing? Looking at my first load I want to try out. Here's what I'm looking at:

One of these depending on what powder I can find locally:

On the hodgdon site under 45 colt, it's any of the loads for a 250 grain LRNFP, preferably the trailboss as I've heard good things about it.

I want to use this bullet:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=1657318278

in my once fired winchester cases using CCI 300 primers. Am I on the right track or the road to disaster?

 

[Mark whiz]

flat nose and round nose are 2 different bullets, the round nose is just that - round and the flat nose is flat - almost like a semi-wadcutter only without the step.

Typically, a flatnose will like a tad lighter load for best accuracy - it's a good paper-puncher while round nose is a good all-around bullet.

 

[ants]

For your purposes in 45 Colt, yes those are the same bullet. Go for it.

 

[evan price]

In terms of, load development- yes, the shape of the point really won't matter much if the bearing surfaces are the same size and the portion of the bullet in the case is the same.

Realistically speaking, the typical flat point bullet has a conical profile with a flat, straight ogive to the flat point, (Called a "Truncated Cone Flat Point") whereas a round nose flat point looks like a round nose bullet that the tip has been flattened out- the ogive is curved instead of straight.

 

[halfded]

So the load that I listed above is safe then right?
One of those will be "my first creation" (in scary mad scientist voice). Unless, of course I come across something that seems more appealing. Those loads seem about on par with where I want to start.

Start with the minimum load, then increase in increments of 10% toward max. correct?

 

[rcmodel]

lead flat nose and lead round nose flat point the same thing?

Yes, they are the same thing in the caliber you are asking about.

The LRNFP is the classic .45 Colt bullet it was loaded with since 1873.

You might run into trouble with the names if you compare a LRNFP in .45 Colt to a LFN in .40 S&W for instance.

One is going to be a round nose flat point, but the other one is going to be a truncated cone.

As long as you are comparing apples to apples in the same caliber, they are the same.

rc

 

[Randy1911]

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That bullet you showed on your link did not appear to have a "crimp groove". You really need a crimp groove for a revolver bullet to crimp properly. Look at this bullet. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=2046894387

 

[halfded]

ordered up some of these instead.. crimp groove AND a lower price.

 

[rcmodel]

That bullet you showed on your link did not appear to have a "crimp groove".

It's not a deal breaker with soft swaged .45 Colt bullets.

You can crimp over the ogive, or crimp into the soft lead enough to prevent bullet pull.

Loaded to the velocity levels they are designed for, recoil pulling the bullets is not going to be a problem anyway.

rc