But you certainly have a sour attitude!
If my attitude is sour, it's probably because you implied that I was not a serious shooter and that my findings are just wrong. Which is very odd and juvenile. Last I checked, if you build a $60,000 addition to your house just so you can have more room for your guns, your leatherwork and your handloading, you're probably pretty serious.
Even the "IDEA" that the stock doesn't absorb 100% of the recoil EVERY SINGLE SHOT, "PERIOD" is beyond bizarre!
Apparently you fell to sleep during physics class. That push you feel when you fire a shot, that's recoil. If the stock absorbed 100% of recoil, you wouldn't feel a thing. Like I said, unless the rifle is bolted down rigidly, the stock transmits recoil to the shooter or in this case, the sled. If you can't understand this basic principle, perhaps the rest is lost on you.
But, please don't misinform people into thinking the lead sled is the be all and end all shooting "AID"!
I never said it was. I said it works and apparently it works much better than those who have never used one would lead folks to believe. MY EXPERIENCE tells me that it works, it works well and it is easier to attain consistency than with bags or a traditional rest.
FOR MY PURPOSES.
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I would love to see you shoot sub MOA with Buck horn sights! You may get lucky and shoot one occasionally, but thats about it. You can fool some shooters, but you won't fool me!
This discussion will go a lot better if you stop assuming you're talking to an inexperienced idiot. It will be FAR more amiable if you don't call me a liar. Yes, I so shoot sub-MOA groups with buckhorns and it was not a fluke. And I hate buckhorn sights. I'm sorry if your ability prevents you from doing this or believing others can do things you cannot.
And for my personal experience, thanks to "many other experienced/knowledgable shooters" over the last 30+ years of hunting, guiding, and competition, I have gained WAYYY too much experience to be fooled by someone of your "apparent" experience/knowledge! Maybe you dont/didnt explain yourself well, I am not sure.
Perhaps you have yet to learn or experience everything. Maybe you need to spend more time with iron sights??? I don't know but you could certainly use a lesson in tact. I don't lie and I don't take flukes as fact.
I don't intend/desire to insult people in this forum.
And you don't think questioning another's character is insulting??? I have to admit, it's been a long time since I was called a liar. Even online.
I really could not care less what benchresters do or what they use. It is as irrelevant as what toilet paper they use in the outhouse. I'm not shooting at 1000yds with 60lb rifles and looking for every thousandth of an inch. To me, that is more boring than watching the grass grow. I cannot even begin to describe to you how much that aspect of the shooting sports does not interest me. Here's another newsflash, benchresters aren't the only "serious" shooters. I have never claimed that lead sleds were the best rest to use for shooting or that they would be better for benchrest. This is because I know little about benchrest shooting and don't care to know. All I have claimed,
from my own experience (not theory), is that they work. They reduce felt recoil to almost nothing. They ARE repeatable and consistent for load development and that I have found them to not be at a disadvantage compared to a traditional rest and/or sandbags. That I have never broken a stock. So perhaps, rather than making accusations, condescending remarks and calling folks out as liars, a few questions to quantify what results have been gleaned from what shooting, with what rifles and at what ranges would've been more appropriate. You might get a more harmonious outcome AND learn something in the process.
I dont understand why people shoot rifles that recoil more than they can handle.
As I have already explained, bench shooting and offhand shooting are not the same. As I have already explained, I can shoot 12ga all day long with lightweight shotguns wearing hard buttplates but a few rounds of a .30/06 class cartridge from the bench finishes me off. As I have already explained, the sled allows me to do a lot more shooting for load development without fatigue. As I have already explained, the sled is not for practice. It is not for developing shooting skill. It is for developing loads, period. So all your condescending nonsense about it being a crutch or inducing a flinch is exactly that, nonsense.
And for the record, I initially bought the sled to use for a rifle I intended to take to Africa. Not everybody who owns a heavy rifle is shooting deer with it.
Here's some hard truth, you don't know everything. I don't know everything either and freely claim my own ignorance, as I did above with regards to benchrest shooting. If you ever believe you're at the point you have nothing else to learn, you probably don't know half what you think you know. You need to throttle back on the ego and the condescension before this gets out of hand.
Next time you're in Tennessee, I'd be glad to show you what iron sights can do. You might learn something.
