Leaking Powder Measure

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DMW1116

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I have been using a Lee Perfect Powder Measure that came with my starter kit. Lately I’ve tried a couple powders that leak a little around the drum. I’ve used CFE Pistol and 223, H335, HS-6, LEVERevolution, and Alliant 2400 with no leaks so far.

The first I noticed leaking was Winchester 231. I’ve also had TAC leak as of today. It’s not much. I swept up the leaked powder and it amounted to about half a grain for 50 rounds loaded.

Do all powder measures leak a little with certain powders? Is there a common fix or something I should check in the measure?
 
I had one years ago which also leaked the fine ball powders, my main problem powder with it was H110. When tightened way down it quit, but I also could barely move the handle to throw powders and was worried I was going to break it somehow. I since moved on and gave it to an aspiring new hand loader along with a bunch of other equipment I didnt use any more. Now I have a few other measures, RCBS and Hornady drum styles and also Dillons slide bars. None of them leak.
 
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How did you get it to work with CFE223?!? That and HP-38 (same as WIN231) are the two that either leak or bind and give inconsistent drops on mine. :cuss:
 
I mean I just tried it. The W231 does bind and leak. This is the first rifle powder I’ve had do it though. I generally check every 10th round for weight and every 5th for pistols since the charge is so light. It does bind and leak with those 2 powders but no accuracy issues with the drops I’ve checked lately.
 
Through my use of the lee ppm I have found it leaked,and subsequently would bind. I cured this by lapping the rotor to the body. I disassembled it and put lapping paste on the interface between the rotor and body. I put the screw back in the rotor and used my cordless drill to spin it in the body. I cleaned it and reapplied graphite to the parts everywhere inside. It completely cured the binding but I still had some kernels of powder here and there.

There turns out to be a slight ledge on the end of the metering chamber. When the metering chamber is down, there is a slight backwards tilted edge. This holds a few kernels of powder. If you throw charges consistently, the same amount of powder hangs on that edge each time. But when you stop, a bump of the bench or the measure itself, dislodges those kernels and they go all over the bench. Thus appearing as leakage. That small amount of powder equalled .2 when I would tap the measure to dislodge it into my scale pan. Not acceptable to me.

I thought it through and figured a way to address that issue as well.

I removed the drop tube assembly so I could inspect the metering chambers end. I removed the sharp edge with a sharp knife, only on the part that was in question, not all the way around the edge as the upper part is where the powder is struck.

Removing the sharp edge on the metering chamber moved the edge back far enough powder would catch on the edge of the hole in the body. I then moved that edge farther back, so that it wouldn't catch powder. Checking through the hole where the drop tube was, I removed material from the edge of the body hole with te tip of a pocket knife blade. I was able to move it far enough back so the powder would flow past instead of catching on a lip. It isn't completely straight down but at a slight angle.

Then I sanded the areas I trimmed with fine sandpaper, blew it off, and wiped off dust, and then applied a coat of graphite.

Now I have very little kernels that hang up. There still is some but maybe .05 to .1 worth at most and often none. Likely a difference in the way I knock at the bottom of the stroke. I try to do the same but other than a hard knock, it's difficult to be 100% consistent here.

I have done two PPMs this way, the first I wasn't as aggressive on and it has the more variance between the two. I plan to give it another once over.

Overall I'm quite satisfied with the results. My measure are more user friendly and more accurate.
 
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I have a RCBS powder measure which when I first started using it, there was a lot of powder on the bench. I filled the casings and watched when I removed the casing, I noticed some powder drop, only a few specks but after 50 or so rounds the bench was a mess. I then smacked the dispenser nozzle with a screwdriver handle and placed a glass bowl under the drop out and no more specks in the glass bowl. I charge and drop the powder into the case and hit the nozzle twice with a dowel and I don't have any more dropped powder specks. Now I just got to learn to hold onto the loaded case better so I don't spill the powder, I am sometimes clumbsy but I am getting better now. I am a RCBS fan.
 
I had a Lee PPM and had the same issues with it leaking ball powder badly. I also lapped the mating surfaces with compound and treated with graphite. It barely leaked if at all after that but I still got rid of it and bought a RCBS Uniflow competition which is awesome.
 
I had a Lee PPM and had the same issues with it leaking ball powder badly. I also lapped the mating surfaces with compound and treated with graphite. It barely leaked if at all after that but I still got rid of it and bought a RCBS Uniflow competition which is awesome.
I could’ve written this. ^^

I started with the auto drum, then went to the auto disk, then the perfect, then the deluxe perfect, and finally and lastly, the Uniflow which is indeed awesome.
 
Leaking powder doesn't really bother me. But binding and charge variances do bother me.

One of my two lee perfect powder measures was absolutely free to me. And the other was I think $30 new. That's a major benefit if you're poor.

But honestly, I like the ppm regardless of cost. I like that it's light weight and easy to stow in a drawer. I like the removable hopper. I like the overall size and the short radius of the handle stroke. I like that it doesn't clack like a metal powder measure. I like the built in baffle.

The ppm meters stick powders without cutting them. I charge 3031 with no issues. I love that.
 
Don't have a PPM but I do have a Lee Auto Drum measure which is about the same thing and the drums are interchangeable.

I have used this measure with HP-38, Ramshot Silhouette, AA#2, AA#5, BL-C2, TAC, Benchmark, Varget and now Accurate 2460. The Accurate 2460 is so fine that it binds up my powder trickler. With all these powders I spill more powder and what I find leaking. So I must have a defective one.
 
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Yeah, I get that too. Lately I've been ignoring it. In the past, I have made the screw on the drum a little tighter and that helped. But not too tight or it won't work. I started a thread a few months ago about how my Lee turret press is finicky. It is. But still good for low cost entry into the hobby.
 
I've had similar issues with leaking on the Lee PPM..tried those fixes with little success, still tends to leak on CFE223 and H110 and CFEBLK...starting using an Adjustable Powder Dipper I found on ebay which I'm liking alot now....here's a link if anyone is interested....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/232973555168
 
I have done the "fixes" on my Lee PPM, but with some powders, all my measures leak. I have been using WC820 for quite a while and I get small leaks from both my C-H 502 and my Lee PPM (only one that doesn't leak is my Pacific Pistol Powder Measure). I ju]st place a clean sheet of paper to catch leaks. Don't bother me a bit as both measures are very consistent and easy to adjust...
 
I could’ve written this. ^^

I started with the auto drum, then went to the auto disk, then the perfect, then the deluxe perfect, and finally and lastly, the Uniflow which is indeed awesome.
good morning! I have a Lee Classic Turret press which is great, no problems...except the Auto Drum powder measure that came with it. I used a Pro1000 with the Auto Disks for years, but that was for mostly Cowboy reloading and the minor charge variances weren't an issue. However with the Auto Drum it doesn't seem to matter which powder I'm using, from Blue Dot to V3N37, the darn thing just won't throw consistent charges. You mention a Uniflow above, which manufacturer is that? How consistent has it been for you?
 
good morning! I have a Lee Classic Turret press which is great, no problems...except the Auto Drum powder measure that came with it. I used a Pro1000 with the Auto Disks for years, but that was for mostly Cowboy reloading and the minor charge variances weren't an issue. However with the Auto Drum it doesn't seem to matter which powder I'm using, from Blue Dot to V3N37, the darn thing just won't throw consistent charges. You mention a Uniflow above, which manufacturer is that? How consistent has it been for you?
RCBS and it’s very consistent with all the powders I use—bullseye, Sport Pistol, BE-86, W231, and Accurate 2, 5, & 7.

I use it standalone (not on a press) as it was designed.

good luck
 
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