Lee Breech Lock question

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How many drills come with a twist or key less chuck now?

It wasn't needed, we had the chuck key to tighten it in all three holes.

Another useless design,;)
 
It's another gizmo you have to buy to be able to use your press. They make more money and we have to buy them, whether we want/need them or not .
The manufacturer's like to sell us stuff, is it needed ? NO , haven't used one in 40+ years , sure as heck don't need one now !
Even Lee's little hand press now has the darn things !
My old Daddy would have said " that's as useless as t*t's on a bore hog" Daddy had some "colorful" speech.
I would say "as useless as mud flaps on a sledge hammer ".

Anybody else got any " as useless as .....sayings ? Lets hear them !
 
How many drills come with a twist or key less chuck now?

It wasn't needed, we had the chuck key to tighten it in all three holes.

Another useless design,
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There are some pretty sorry keyless chucks too, to be fair there are crummy keyed chucks for that matter as well. I agree good ones are nice, I'd take an Albrecht keyless over even a good Jacobs keyed chuck more often than not.
 
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I always chuckle when people say the Lee Breechlock quick-change bushing system is a solution looking for a problem, but the Hornady version of the quick-change bushing system is the best thing since metallic cartridges.
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Well, the main difference is that the Hornady version can be used on other presses, using their conversion kit, and it allows for the presses to be regulated to each other, with shims, so that you can move the dies without making die adjustment
 
Just came to me, having a forum devoted to reloading, that reloading in and of itself, is a problem looking for a place to happen...
 
Used them briefly but then got the Classic Turret. Given they don't index properly to the various presses, not that useful.
 
If you like them, use them, if not then don’t. Nobody has said anyone had to do otherwise. No reason to get our panties bunched up.
 
I don't know if it has been mentioned, but Lee makes a locking ring that will definitely hold a die in one place far better than the rubber ring. When using the Lee bayonet bushing/bayonet system, the die is locked into place by a pin. It ain't gonna come loose when locked in.
 
As a guy with only one press and liking the Lee simplicity for caliber changes, I love the BL bushing system. There is no quicker way to switch out dies in my opinion. If you have a good turret or progressive setup congrats. The single stage demographic enjoys Lee's style. YMMV
 
All these people with problems that don't exist.
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No, all these people that are incredibly lazy! People that can't be bothered to simply screw a die into a threaded hole. That's basically what these two bushing systems are all about.

The Hornady Lock-N-Load Die Bushing is a great way to get the most out of your Lock-N-Load press. The unique L-N-L Die Bushing allows dies to be changed with a flick of the wrist. Simply insert the die into a Lock-N-Load bushing, place the bushing in the press, and lock it into place with a twist of the wrist.
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Hornady has had problems with the machining of the LNL bushings, that allow the dies/bushings to work lose during use/reloading. Stories of the powder measure falling right off the LNL AP press!

Well then RCBS should get rid of their tool heads (die plate) also.

Talk about nonsense. Tool Head, Reloading MACHINE??

I thought it was a die plate and a press??
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Call it whatever your pet name for it is, Dillon calls it a toolhead. Lee calls it a turret.
 
Although I load on a Dillon650, I bought one of the Lee Challenger presses to size bullets that I plan to cast. Now I feel so dumb cause I liked it.
 
I don't know about having a "problem" but I load 5 different calibers on a single stage press. They just save time getting the die set up. At any time, I can leave the bushing locked in and screw out dies one at a time if I choose. I wouldn't mind using either the Lee or Hornady ones.
 
Wow! I didn't mean to threaten anyone's religion with my question.

What I'm seeing with the o-ring setup is that one time I load 38 spcl with the same 158 gr lswc bullet and I get an OAL of 1.481 and other times I get a low of 1.479_5 or a high of 1.483 depending on how much I tighten it. I can see that if I was shooting a rifle and seating variance of .004 was critical to me this would drive me nuts. As I'm shooting a handgun off hand in a poorly lit indoor range, I'm not that manic about it. My groups suffer from my inconsistency more than they do the cartridges'.
 
The Breech Lock single stage was the first press I owned. By using the BL, I don't need to readjust dies very time I change calibers back and forth...less measuring OAL, less worrying if the crimp is the same, etc, etc, etc. I use it for the same reason that I buy extra turrets for the Classic Turret press; leave the dies in them and switch turrets and Voila!, back in business with the exact same cartridges...much more consistent lot to lot.

I'm surprised anyone would advocate otherwise!
 
Styles, Lee came out with a breech lock bushing that has a locking ring on it. I intend to get a few for the reasons you describe. But in the meantime, I picked up some standard locking rings and replaced the nut and o-ring on my Lee dies with those, so it's essentially the same thing. But any new dies I get will have that new locking breech-lock bushing.

Last night I loaded ammo for three calibers. The two I have BL bushings for the dies, were a snap. The other was, I admit, a bit of a PITA. :D
 
Thanks! I think it might make sense to get these for the seating dies. Also, since those do not go down to the ram all the way they are harder to tighten consistently.
 
Is anyone else of the opinion that the breech lock system is a solution in search of a problem?
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NO! Its the press I started with & still use somewhat frequently.
I love the fact that the dies are only 1/4 turn & they're set.

If you only reload 1 caliber then, ya, it's not needed.
When you reload 12 calibers?
It's a God-send.
 
Talk about a solution to a problem that does not exist, the LEE new lock rings are not needed if the die is snugged tight into the bushing or turret plate. The dies will not move at all.

It is when you start unscrewing them all the time that they will move.

I have the original o ring type on my dies in individual turret plates and have not had one move for years, Many many calibers.

The RCBS lock rings with a brass hex head screw is a PITA, they strip all the time, Why use a tool to loosen and adjust dies. RCBS solution is to send you a bag of brass set screws and a bunch of lead shoot to act as a buffer.

Thread drift, How about the Dillon Square Deal??, lets see you have to use their proprietary dies only, Gads !
But its Blue so it must be good, :rolleyes:I'll leave it at that.

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To the OP Styles, Reloading is like a religion;):)
 
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