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Lee LCT case kicker - Inline Fab Review
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ArchAngelCD
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OK, I'm cheap but at least that isn't all that bad.
I've spent more with Inline Fabrication on accessories for my Lee Classic Cast then I spent on the press.
I'll write up a review of the Classic Cast Ejector System when I get it installed...should be here on Monday
I'll write up a review of the Classic Cast Ejector System when I get it installed...should be here on Monday
ArchAngelCD
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Ahhh, a guy with inside information and connections lol... Cool
I've had the kit as pictured for my LCT for a while now. I've used it loading 9mm and .223. It works well and saves at least 30% of your time. More importantly to me it just makes reloading more comfortable. I'll be ordering a riser from Inline soon. Again sometimes it's about comfort.
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I took Drband's advice and spent the $6 at an autoparts store for that model number hard emission tubing. I found it easier to push it onto the setscrew after warming up the end with a heat gun.
Works great and no more rubber finger sticking to a die.
Thanks Drband!
Works great and no more rubber finger sticking to a die.
Thanks Drband!
dragon813gt
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Why should I look at it from any other angle? I already own a 550B which greatly reduces arm movements and case handling. It's a true progressive. While the case kicker will reduce your movements it's still four pulls for a loaded round.
If I didn't have a 550B I would be more tempted to buy the case kicker for the LCT. But from my standpoint it's to much money for little improvement. I have only twenty turrets set up for the LCT so it's not like I don't use it.
I'm not asking you to see it differently as it apparently doesn't suit your circumstances. However, for other readers, I was pointing out the misconception inherent in the statement:dragon813gt said:
A 30% increase in reloading speed might not suit your loading ritual, but it might be a worthwhile value to other reloaders
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There is no misconception in my statement because it's my opinion. You feel that it will speed it up 30%. If I thought it was that much I would buy it. That's a very large number and I think it's wishful thinking. I know it will speed it up but one has to justify if it's for them or not.
Glad it worked out for you! Now you've got more than a lifetime supply of the case kicker fingers![emoji41] (But I bet you'll never have to replace it again-it's very tough material.)
alexcue
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BTW, if you are using the Lee Reloading stand, you can make this work without the bin bracket. It's a little jerry rigged, but it works like a charm. It really does speed up the process.
(according to Dan, the owner you can make it work also by using the bin bracket but you have to raise the turret over the bench plate from Lee)
(according to Dan, the owner you can make it work also by using the bin bracket but you have to raise the turret over the bench plate from Lee)
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Retired in 2001
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YES Its a kit everything is included
https://youtu.be/nILLtSZ5Jes
Check out this video above
if you add a bullet seating die it is a progressive like a Dillion 550B
https://youtu.be/nILLtSZ5Jes
Check out this video above
if you add a bullet seating die it is a progressive like a Dillion 550B
GBExpat
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Well, I finally got my Inline Kit installed (didn't need the little "ramp" assy) and took it for a TestDrive with 511 plated 9x19s (RMR DblStuf RN 124gr).
When I was In-The-Zone (but not in a rush, just steadily cranking them out) I was dropping a cartridge every ~10 seconds.
So in one hour I could produce up to 360 ... but, surely, 300 is a good estimate.
Since before the Inline Kit my steady production rate for these cartridges was ~200/hr ...
... I have realized an increase in production of at least 50%.
I really like this "accessory".
GBExpat
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Acoupla things ...
Since setting up my LCT 18 months ago it has been a tiny bit out of alignment, as I suspect many/most are.
That created no major issues while I was using it in the normal way as it caused me no extra time/effort to use a finger to slightly adjust the cases in the holder prior to the mouth-expansion/powder-drop stroke.
To take full advantage of the Inline Fabrications Kit, however, I was going to have to have the LCT fully aligned so that all I ever do with my left hand is place a case, load a primer, place a bullet, repeat ... and my right hand never leaves the handle.
As a gauge for LCT alignment, I used a Lee Bullet Sizer Die to assure that the ram was centered.
The Inline "Kicker" that was provided to me has the screwhole in the side of the ring was not drilled true (not orthogonal), it is a bit eccentric. I viewed that as a plus since if it did not work well in the "high" position, I could easily turn it over and try the "low" position.
I judged the "low" to be the best since that has it contacting the cases as low as possible. It worked out as I had hoped.
I had to (re)train myself to load the primer with my left hand (I am right-handed and for 18 months did the primers with my right) ...
... that and little "muscle-memory" aspects of my old procedure took awhile to overcome ... but ...
... after the first ~200 I was well on my way to training myself into the new, smoother, more efficient procedure.
By the time I finished the 500 rounds, I found that the little "muscle-memory" OOPSes were only very rarely popping up.
Since setting up my LCT 18 months ago it has been a tiny bit out of alignment, as I suspect many/most are.
That created no major issues while I was using it in the normal way as it caused me no extra time/effort to use a finger to slightly adjust the cases in the holder prior to the mouth-expansion/powder-drop stroke.
To take full advantage of the Inline Fabrications Kit, however, I was going to have to have the LCT fully aligned so that all I ever do with my left hand is place a case, load a primer, place a bullet, repeat ... and my right hand never leaves the handle.
As a gauge for LCT alignment, I used a Lee Bullet Sizer Die to assure that the ram was centered.
The Inline "Kicker" that was provided to me has the screwhole in the side of the ring was not drilled true (not orthogonal), it is a bit eccentric. I viewed that as a plus since if it did not work well in the "high" position, I could easily turn it over and try the "low" position.
I judged the "low" to be the best since that has it contacting the cases as low as possible. It worked out as I had hoped.
I had to (re)train myself to load the primer with my left hand (I am right-handed and for 18 months did the primers with my right) ...
... that and little "muscle-memory" aspects of my old procedure took awhile to overcome ... but ...
... after the first ~200 I was well on my way to training myself into the new, smoother, more efficient procedure.
By the time I finished the 500 rounds, I found that the little "muscle-memory" OOPSes were only very rarely popping up.
For any folks out there with an indexing alignment issue, the Lee self-help video is just that....great self-help. Like all their videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9iPthaYPh4
The entire video library can be found at:
http://leeprecision.com/help-videos.html
I watch the vids for die adjustment guidance whenever I switch bullet types if it has been a while or I'm adding a new caliber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9iPthaYPh4
The entire video library can be found at:
http://leeprecision.com/help-videos.html
I watch the vids for die adjustment guidance whenever I switch bullet types if it has been a while or I'm adding a new caliber.
thomas15
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Using a 5 station auto-indexing progressive press with manual case and bullet feed for straight wall pistol I can at the top out at around 500 rounds/hour. But a more comfortable rate is 400 rounds per hour. At 400 rounds/hour that's 1 finished round every 9 seconds. That's one pull every 9 seconds. If I add 1 second to each pull, the yield is 350 rounds/hour. That's 1 pull every 10 seconds.
A single stage press with a 4 station revolving turret head would have to have 4 times as many lever pulls to accomplish the same thing (350 rounds/hour), that's 1 pull every 2.5 seconds for an hour straight.
At 300 rounds/hour, that's one round every 12 seconds or one pull of the handle every 3 seconds. That works out to 1200 handle pulls in one hour.
Adding a bullet feeder to a turret press would probably not help much. Why? Because 50 147 grain bullets is roughly 1 pound of extra weight on the rotating turret head. Stacked end to end in a single bullet feed tube, the tube would be about 4 feet long.
If you could configure a 4 tube system you might get away with 50 rounds but if your loading at a rate of 300 rounds/hour that's 6 stoppages per hour to replenish your bullet supply. It would be interesting to see how the rotating turret head would tolerate an extra pound of weight and index freely combined with 1200 handle pulls per hour.
A single stage press with a 4 station revolving turret head would have to have 4 times as many lever pulls to accomplish the same thing (350 rounds/hour), that's 1 pull every 2.5 seconds for an hour straight.
At 300 rounds/hour, that's one round every 12 seconds or one pull of the handle every 3 seconds. That works out to 1200 handle pulls in one hour.
Adding a bullet feeder to a turret press would probably not help much. Why? Because 50 147 grain bullets is roughly 1 pound of extra weight on the rotating turret head. Stacked end to end in a single bullet feed tube, the tube would be about 4 feet long.
If you could configure a 4 tube system you might get away with 50 rounds but if your loading at a rate of 300 rounds/hour that's 6 stoppages per hour to replenish your bullet supply. It would be interesting to see how the rotating turret head would tolerate an extra pound of weight and index freely combined with 1200 handle pulls per hour.
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For ME, the value in this accessory is not in the substantial increase in productivity, it is the substantially reduced case handling. less hand movement = less fatigue and fumbling around.
I reload as a relaxing pastime and don't really fret much over the actual round count per hour.But the other day I loaded the primer feeder with 100 to make some .380s. I was actually surprised at how quickly it emptied now that the kicker is in place.
I reload as a relaxing pastime and don't really fret much over the actual round count per hour.But the other day I loaded the primer feeder with 100 to make some .380s. I was actually surprised at how quickly it emptied now that the kicker is in place.
thomas15
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No prob Randy, but you are not one of those who constantly makes absurd claims about the press and it's add-ons.
I'm sure that the inline fabrications is a quality option, I have two of their strong mounts, two dual bin holders and an upgraded finished bullet catch bin and they are all high quality.
I'm sure that the inline fabrications is a quality option, I have two of their strong mounts, two dual bin holders and an upgraded finished bullet catch bin and they are all high quality.
GBExpat
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I don't recall seeing any "absurd claims" being made in "LCT" Threads, and those are one of the few types that I always peruse. What are some of these claims that you are seeing and I am not?======================
My laptop, apparently, has learned a new trick ... instant, unrequested Restart while the owner is completing a detailed Forum post. <sigh>
Simple version of what is now gone ...
I had hoped to use additional pre-filled Safety Prime primer trays to minimize Primer Refill delays.
Unfortunately, Lee has redisigned the primer trays into a form that I find close to unacceptable and I will now be reusing my existing 4 for this purpose.
And, yes, I checked on the Lee website under the Part listing and the old-style trays are not offered.
Life.
At least I have the 4 to use ...
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thomas15
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OK I used the term absurd claims, but what I'm trying to communicate is the concept of fantasy. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
GBExpat
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OK I used the term absurd claims, but what I'm trying to communicate is the concept of fantasy. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Who is making all of these fantasy claims and what, pray tell, are they claiming?
GBExpat
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No-o-o-o-o
... you taking the time to start this Thread is what finally got me (for one) off of the dime and now I am very glad that I finally ordered the InLine Kit.I think that sometimes I just get weary of all the Lee bashing that goes on. For ME the LCT is the perfect match to my realistic ammo needs and budget. It isn't a Camdex, or a Dillon 1050, but it doesn't cost like one either.
Were it not for Lee's VERY affordable line of good quality products I suspect there would be a lot fewer reloaders out there, and the smaller the reloading market gets, the higher the prices will climb and the fewer suppliers there will be.
it is also slower than progressives, but I enjoy reloading as a passtime, and if I made a year's supply in just one day, I'd have nothing to do for a year. Not much of a hobby then.
Were it not for Lee's VERY affordable line of good quality products I suspect there would be a lot fewer reloaders out there, and the smaller the reloading market gets, the higher the prices will climb and the fewer suppliers there will be.
it is also slower than progressives, but I enjoy reloading as a passtime, and if I made a year's supply in just one day, I'd have nothing to do for a year. Not much of a hobby then.
GBExpat
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There is another thing that I have not much noticed; Lee bashing. I suppose that I have witnessed some 'tudes relative to Blues vs Reds vs Greens vs ???? but that type of thing just rolls off of my back unless the author is annoying ... in which case I can just add that name to my IGNORE LIST and carry on.
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I think that Lee has a real winner with the AutoDrum. Prior to my getting the InLine Kit, that was the final item to make my process reliably repeatable (my AutoDisks & AutoDiskPros required that I add a cellphone vibrator to get the Throw reliable).
The InLine simply improves my volume output by at least 50%. Gotta love that.
I will step back to the slower world whenever I am working up loads again, using the LCT and a slow-mode turret or SingleStage, as required by the circumstances.
Handy, capable, inexpensive piece of kit!
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