legally transporting firearms in IL

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Ok, I have some questions on transporting firearms(and ammo) in my state of IL.

Yes I know that the gun must be unloaded and in a case. Question is where can I put the ammo? My problem is I don't have a car, I ride a bike. As far as I can tell it's legal for me to put a firearm in my bike(back) basket as long as I do the above. I will also put a cable lock on any firearm I'm transporting and/or put in a locked case.

Me and a few friends at work are agruing about this. They tell me that not only I can't have ammo in the same conteiner, I can't even have it in the basket in a seperate conteinter. However looking though the state police website, and reading the FAQ I can do so, and even have the ammo in the same case with a gun. So who is right? Did the state changed the laws recently?

I was planning on getting a ammo box, finding a way to lock it to my bike rack and then have the box itself locked. Then put the firearm(s) and ammo in it. Would this be legal? The gun(s) will have a cable lock as well.

Another problem is going past schools. Am I required to be so many feet away from a school when transporting firearms?

One item that came up last week is that a friend was going to give me a ride to a gun shop to pick up my gun and then take me back home. He doesn't have a FOID card. Can he have the gun in the minivan as long as I'm with him?

Sorry for the long post but I'm trying clear a few things here.

-Bill
 
When going to a gun range, I keep my glock in the original plastic box it came in, inside of a gym-like bag with some ammo boxes thrown in as well.


In other words, to get to the gun one would have to open the bag, pull out the gun container and then pull the gun from that container.
 
AMMO: Ammo can be anywhere as long as it is not within the firearm itself:
1. In the bag or box with the firearm
2. In original boxes in a paper bag
3. Loose in your pockets or all over the car seats/floor
4. In a magazine or speedloader which is in the same container as the firearm itself

SHARING RIDES: Your friend giving you a ride doesn't need a FOID as long as you have one. Matter of fact, you could charter a bus to go to the range and fill it with non-FOIDies and EBRs and handguns, as long as YOU have a FOID (and none of them are prohibited from firearms ownership) - AND drive it through Chicago!

LOCKS: It's not illegal and you don't need anything locked, it's up to you if you want to or not.

Schools: I have no idea about radii offhand....
 
Your friend giving you a ride doesn't need a FOID as long as you have one. Matter of fact, you could charter a bus to go to the range and fill it with non-FOIDies and EBRs and handguns, as long as YOU have a FOID (and none of them are prohibited from firearms ownership) - AND drive it through Chicago!
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So any non-FOIDies friends can give me a ride to a gun range/shop with a firearm as long as he isn't prohibited from owning firearms? That may leave out the friend who was going to give me a ride last week since he was charge with domastic volence a while back, but I think that got plea bargin down. He is wanting to learn about firearms so I'll have him check his court records.

Even though I'm not required to use locks, I am going to do so for my peace of mind and to cover my rear end. The locked box/case locked to my bike rack is so that I can stop somewhere to use the bathroom or get something to eat on my way to or from the gun range/shop.

The state police have a headquaters near where I live, so I'm going to see if I can get palmpleht from them to carry with me when I go to the range.

My friends at work who say I can't have ammo with the gun or in my basket with gun were not aware that waiting periods also apply to private gun sales.

Thanks

-Bill
 
You can take non-FOIDies to the range, and encourage them to get a FOID afterward...

At a gun store, he can ogle but not fondle until in possession of FOID card; I suspect due to potential legal hassles. If the store also has a range, you can rent or use your own and he can shoot it...Doesn't exactly make sense, does it?

If you were in a car with a felon or other "restricted" person and had positive control of the firearm (locked, in the trunk, disassembled, etc.) I don't know what would happen. Gonna start a new thread on this...
 
Waiting periods on private sales in Illinois? Maybe in Daley's dreams, but not yet. At least not that I'm aware of. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong...
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Yes you are. I found that on the state police website somewhere... Of course this is rather hard to enforce, not that I'm encourageing anyone to break the law.

At a gun store, he can ogle but not fondle until in possession of FOID card; I suspect due to potential legal hassles. If the store also has a range, you can rent or use your own and he can shoot it...Doesn't exactly make sense, does it?

If you were in a car with a felon or other "restricted" person and had positive control of the firearm (locked, in the trunk, disassembled, etc.) I don't know what would happen. Gonna start a new thread on this...
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If I know that a friend is a felon then I won't ask him to give me a ride to the range...

-Bill
 
You are correct, sir. I stand corrected. From the website:

Does Illinois have a waiting period for firearm purchases and does it apply to private sales?
Yes. Illinois law requires withholding the delivery of a concealable weapon (i.e. a handgun) for at least 72 hours and a rifle, shotgun, or other long gun for at least 24 hours. This applies for gun dealers and private sales.

Unbelievable.....
 
Be careful, Nanook. They DO send people to prison for that one. Sellers and buyers both (or more likely, the second one to agree to rat out the other.)
 
Cellar Dweller, how is it possible to drive through Chicago with a handgun legally? I understood Chicago's ordinance to apply to everybody, FOID or not.
 
No, registration nonsense doesn't apply to non-residents of Chicago.

I believe it states that transportation and possession of a firearm in Chicago by a non-resident is lawful as long as it's being possesed for lawful purposes. Or something to that extent.
 
No, registration nonsense doesn't apply to non-residents of Chicago.

I believe it states that transportation and possession of a firearm in Chicago by a non-resident is lawful as long as it's being possesed for lawful purposes. Or something to that extent.
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Doesn't mean that a LEO won't harrass you.

-Bill
 
For a pamphlet showing how to legally transport a wepon in Illinois go anywhere that sells hunting liscence and pick up the hunting regulation pamphlet. Yes you can be busted for selling a firearm without a waiting period, I have heard about the state police running sting operations at gun shows. Jim.
 
I got a pamphlet from the gun dealer when I picked up my gun. He told me that I should have it in the case when transporting any guns.

As far as gun shows go, I would only buy guns from dealers. You don't know who may be undercover, and they may try to talk you into doing something illegal.

My 2 c't

-Bill
 
Don Gwinn

Chicago Municipal Ordinances
Link is down at the moment, but I seem to recall that legal transportation of legal firearms is specifically EXEMPT from Chicago's foolishness. 8-20-something or 8-24-something.

However, like whm1974 said, expect possible harassment. Depends on if the officer is gonna go by what the law actually states or how he feels like interpreting it.

I need to print that out when the link is back up for the times I absolutely have to drive through there.
 
I am entirely used to harassment, and when I went to the Roderick Pritchett trial I was in neighborhoods where I wished heartily for my pistol. Figures.
 
This may be off topic but anyone here ride a motor scooter? When I went to the range in East Alton I was gone for around six hours, almost 2 hours to get there, was there for 2 hours and takes 2 hours to home since I'm on a bicycle. For city use a bike is fine, but it's a pain to go places. Can't afford a car on what I make.

Here is one scooter I'm looking at:

http://www.midwestmotorsports.com/n...2677881X6K28K2004J2I16I41JPMQ1160R0&veh=13246


I read some reviews on this and it looks like it can go over 50 mph. Anyone know if it's highway legal?

-Bill
 
Sorry, that's way off topic and I have no idea. I would suggest making that question a thread of its own in the Roundtable forum. That way it will get more targeted responses and be on topic for its forum.
 
Sorry, that's way off topic and I have no idea. I would suggest making that question a thread of its own in the Roundtable forum. That way it will get more targeted responses and be on topic for its forum.
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Sorry I didn't mean to be off topic, but since the thread is about transporting firearms...

-Bill
 
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