Less Lethal Swedish Service Rifle?

[JJNA]

My memory is fuzzy, so I cannot recall the details, but I remember something about Sweden deploying less lethal service rifle of some sort (I think there was a brief article in the American Rifleman).

Could someone more knolwedgeable confirm this or otherwise clarify this as a hoax?

The thrust of the article was about how the politically correct Swedish government commissioned a new rifle to reduce lethality of the existing rifle.

Thanks.

 

[Jim Watson]

Only thing I ever heard about it was that our friends the gentle social Democrats who used to be vikings had gone to 5.56 bullets designed not to fragment and to yaw ("tumble") as little as possible.

 

[JJNA]

Thank you for the reply. Would you by any chance have any reference to that on the Web? Thanks.

 

[kcmarine]

Sounds like something the French or the L.A.P.D. would try...

 

[kBob]

At one point the Swedes were looking at a sort of almost bull pup, but not quite folding stock 5.56mm rifle.

The rifle used the magazine for a pistol grip.

At the time they were szid to be using a barrel with a tighter rifling twist than the then US standard of 1 in 12 inches supposedly to further stabilize the M193 type 55 grain FMC ammo of the time so as to reduce fragmentation and bullet upset.

I think there may be a meantion of it in one of the Ezell versions of Small Arms Of the World.

Interestingly some report that the current 1in 9 and 1 in 7 twist barrels actually increase fragmentation and upset of M193 ammunition at police ranges (less than 75 meters).

Might check to see if Box o' Truth has any tests comparing twist rates and effects of M193 on gelatin.

-Bob Hollingsworth

 

[CBS220]

Do you mean the Swedish assault rifle that shot a cartridge much like the .17 HMR?

 

[Speedo66]

Why bother?

The last time Sweden engaged in hostilities was 1809!

They voluntarily gave Norway their independence back in 1905.

Why have a military, who doesn't like the Swedes?!!

When a Russian sub grounded itself in the Stockholm archipelago in Swedish territory some years back, the gov't tried to ignore it for several days and hoped it would just go away.

Same for Saab jets. Sweden is probably the smallest country in the world (population 8 million, like NYC) making it's own jets. Why bother?

 

[JJNA]

Does anyone have any Web reference I can use? Now that I think about it, the reduced rifling twist/fragmentation of the bullet (less "barbaric" wounds) sounds like what I read earlier.

 

[R.W.Dale]

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as63-e.htm

 

[JNewell]

You aren't thinking of the wood-bullet training ammo for the 94/96/38 Mausers, maybe? Apologies if that's not at all what you were thinking of!

 

[Beagle-zebub]

You aren't thinking of the wood-bullet training ammo for the 94/96/38 Mausers, maybe?

Nah, could cause splinters.