Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Let the gouging begin!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Matt Sutton, Sep 10, 2004.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Matt Sutton

    Matt Sutton Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    154
    One of my local gunshops is preselling "ban free" rifles and magazines.

    http://www.impactguns.com/store/ban_free.html

    Too bad they are asking for more for many items than you'd pay today buying preban. That's the end of my dealings with them. Gougers and opportunists are just as bad as the gun banners in my book. Shame on them for tainting the end to 10 long years of injustice!
     
  2. Justin

    Justin Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2002
    Messages:
    19,270
    Location:
    THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL
    People will pay what the market will bear. If you don't like the prices, don't buy from them.
     
  3. jsalcedo

    jsalcedo Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    3,683
    I agree with both Matt and Justin.

    Some vendors tend to gouge consumers for a short term gain. To me this lacks class and is not sound business.

    Like the folks who ramped up their gas prices to $5 per gallon on 9/11/01

    But then again consumers will be the ultimate authority on what the value of these items are.

    I think some will scramble and buy now due to the fear of another ban right around the corner.
     
  4. El Tejon

    El Tejon Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    18,083
    Location:
    Lafayette, Indiana-the Ned Flanders neighbor to Il
    Ummm, just how does this fall within the definition of "gouging"?:rolleyes:

    Is this the only gun shoppe in Utah or something?:confused:
     
  5. Matt Sutton

    Matt Sutton Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    154
    The store in question charges $18.99 for Glock mags elsewhere on their site. I can't think of any reason normal capacity magazines should cost $29.99. Weren't prices inflated enough after the ban was passed? :confused:
    They are not the only gun store in Utah, but they are the first locally to announce pricing and availlability of previously banned goods.
     
  6. Edmond

    Edmond Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Messages:
    1,465
    Location:
    Wish You Were Here
    I definitely agree. I also think that it will give them a short term gain at a long term expense. Gun owners aren't the type to just forget about something like that.:D
     
  7. Sylvilagus Aquaticus

    Sylvilagus Aquaticus Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    2,170
    Location:
    Dallas, Texas
    I'm going to wait for the Ice Cream Truck of Death to get to my neighborhood and get mine then, thanks.

    Fresher that way. :D

    Regards,
    Rabbit.
     
  8. Erik Jensen

    Erik Jensen Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    523
    Location:
    Detroit. um... Dogg.
    Heck, I live in Detroit. if you listen to the local media, my street will be flooded with assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. I figure I'll just throw on a pair of hipwaders and pick out what I want from the rapids that surely will form around the potholes.

    Erik :D
     
  9. jefnvk

    jefnvk Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2004
    Messages:
    4,938
    Location:
    The Copper Country, Michigan
    My philosophy: If you don't want to pay the price, find someone selling cheaper. If enough people don't buy at that price, it will come down. Market intervention = bad.
     
  10. wasrjoe

    wasrjoe Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2004
    Messages:
    1,242
    Location:
    Arizona
    I don't think he was asking for any market intervention. Just as it is OK to ask higher-than-market prices, it's OK to be pissed off at people who do.
     
  11. Wildalaska

    Wildalaska member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    5,296
    Location:
    Anchorage, Alaska
    Look keep in mind that ya got to recoup your investment. I went out and stocked over $3000 of LEO mags gettin ready for Monday...while Impact is a few$$ higher all around than me, and I have em in stock and they dont, their prices are not out of line....and btw to the gneral public my prices are the same

    PS a plug, 4 Beta Cs left, in stock, special pricing for THR members!

    WildgettinburntoutAlaska
     
  12. 444

    444 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2002
    Messages:
    7,950
    Location:
    Ohio
    I know I am beating a dead horse here, and this probably doesn't even apply in this particular case, and I have said this on more than one thread in the recent past but...............:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    I have read a lot of posts where people talk like the prices are going to be the same as they were before the ban. They think that if they paid $350 for an AK in 1994, then when the ban sunsets, they should be able to buy an AK then for $350 since that was the "pre-ban" price. Please keep in mind that the price of everything has gone up in the last 10 years. This stuff isn't going to be anywhere near as cheap as it was then. In another thread I used the example of a Bushmaster AR15 since it was the first thing that came to mind. Their current suggested retail price according to their website is over one thousand dollars for a "post ban" rifle that you could buy last month. When the ban sunsets next week, the price isn't going to drop lower than that. Why would it? I realize that the street price is significantly less than that, but I am just using an example.
     
  13. R.H. Lee

    R.H. Lee Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2004
    Messages:
    7,377
    Location:
    CA
    ROTFLMAO!!:D
     
  14. Coronach

    Coronach Moderator Emeritus

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    11,109
    Actually, the rather steep rise in price was a benefit. If the price had stayed stable, everyone and their uncle would have run off to fill every gas can and tank they had, which would have created an actual supply shortfall, which would have sent the price through the freakin' roof and kept it there for a long time...because, while it is possible to increase production to cover demand, it takes a while to get the end product down the pipeline, as it were.

    What happened in reality was this:

    The sheep got scared.

    The sheep ran to the pumps.

    The sheep saw expensive gas.

    The sheep bleated and went home, and the supply remained largely intact.

    The price came down, rapidly.

    If they really wanted to milk things, they could have kept the prices low at first, allowed panicked demand to outpace supply, thus driving the price through the roof, and kept production steady (read: insufficient), which would have maintained sky-high prices for weeks, at no greater cost to them than normal day-to-day business.

    They didn't do that.

    [/hijack]

    Mike ;)

    PS Yes, I was at the pumps, too, after my 12 hour shift. I gassed up two cars and paid through the nose...not $5, but high enough. I'm a team player, but only so much. ;) There is no 'I' in 'team', but there is a 'me' ;)
     
  15. c_yeager

    c_yeager Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2003
    Messages:
    5,479
    Location:
    Seattle
    Maybe it's because the guy has a whole ton of 10rnd mags that are going to be worthless in a few days and he has cut the price on them to get rid of them ASAP. But, i guess that would make too much sense. Personally i would object if he was trying to pawn off his old "cripple-mags" for the same price as the new regular capacity mags.

    Yeah, his prices are a bit high on a lot of stuff but, he is allowed to charge what the market will bear. And they are a far cry from the price that was being charged for "prebans" a few years back.
     
  16. WhoKnowsWho

    WhoKnowsWho Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2002
    Messages:
    3,432
    Location:
    Maricopa, AZ
    Glock mags for $29.99? Pfft, order from www.fourfourmag.com used G17 mags for $13... free shipping for orders over $100.
     
  17. Wildalaska

    Wildalaska member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    5,296
    Location:
    Anchorage, Alaska
    All the other mags are $22..only the "pre owned" Glock 17s are $13...

    Me myself if I was buying retail, having seen "pre owned" Glock 17 mags, Ill would pass and pay the $5-8 more for a new one...

    But hey to each his own...

    WildjustaslongaseveryonegetssomeAlaska
     
  18. Waitone

    Waitone Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2002
    Messages:
    5,406
    Location:
    The Land of Broccoli and Fingernails
    It is called "supply and demand." Anytime you remove a cap on supply in the presence of excessive demand, prices will spike. They will also drop over time.

    Solutions:
    --Wait to buy
    --Shop other stores
    --Substitute other products
    --Complain about the prices to the store's proprieter.
     
  19. Beren

    Beren Moderator Emeritus

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2002
    Messages:
    2,388
    Location:
    Pittsburgh, PA
    I'll wait for normal capacity magazines that don't have the "LE Only" stamp on them. I know the words are meaningless after the ban, but I like to keep the number of useless words stamped on my property to a minimum. :)
     
  20. GEM

    GEM Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2004
    Messages:
    4,354
    Location:
    TX
    Don't like useless words? That's why Al Gore invented the Internet!

    Anyway, at the local gun show, one dealer was taking orders at $24.99. I'm going to wait a show or two, till the feeding frenzy dies down and many enter the system. I'll bet we see about a $22 stabilization.

    One doofus told me that he would sell normal caps at $40. He was selling his 'new' ones at $79.00.

    Idiot - seems to me that last month, you should have sold out at $30 or so. I might have bought one as a contingency. But now he is stuck. Ha.
     
  21. Highland Ranger

    Highland Ranger Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2003
    Messages:
    2,299
    Location:
    New Jersey Highlands
    I haven't done a survey but I saw on SMith's and Beretta's sites:

    Any gun bought after 9/13 till end of year gets two free hi cap mags if it doesn't already come with it.

    That should stop any stupid gouging on the part of local retailers.

    http://home.smith-wesson.com/conten...ontent/00/01/32/01/03/userdirectory59.content

    http://www.berettausa.com/product/promotions/92_96_cx4_promo/92_96_cx4_promo.htm

    Hope SIg does the same thing - I was leaning toward them as a AWB sunset celebration purchase.
     
  22. Edmond

    Edmond Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Messages:
    1,465
    Location:
    Wish You Were Here
    I wouldn't call 10 round mags useless; *********** is still limited their mags to 10 rounds. I wouldn't use regular capacity mags at the range anyway. I am still going to use 10 round mags at the range.
     
  23. Wildalaska

    Wildalaska member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    5,296
    Location:
    Anchorage, Alaska
    heck Ill take $22 for the mags Im selling for $17.99

    WildmomoneyAlaska
     
  24. Bainx

    Bainx member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2002
    Messages:
    1,271
    Location:
    East TN
    The old addage--"Squeeze the lemon while you got it" applies here
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2004
  25. XLMiguel

    XLMiguel Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2002
    Messages:
    2,551
    Location:
    Santa Fe, NM
    Edmond's got it - the 10 rounders are fine for practice, and I guess I'll just keep all them old Promags for FTF drills (actually, since I replaced the springs in the Promags with Wolff springs, they work fine:D ). I'm just happy to be getting std cap mags at a reasonable price.

    And BTW, newer guns like the H&K USP9C just got a lot more attractive with the availability of std cap mags. Life is good!

    Er, dang, my 'I wants' list just got bigger:D :rolleyes: :what: :neener:
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page