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Mexico furious at tough US law on migrants

By John Authers in Mexico City and Edward Alden in Washington
Published: May 13 2005 19:27 | Last updated: May 13 2005 19:27


Mexico has reacted furiously to a bill signed into law by the US this week that would fund a border wall and prevent illegal Mexican migrants from obtaining US driving licences.

President Vicente Fox said he would lodge a diplomatic complaint, and was considering complaints to multilateral bodies if Mexico could not unable to resolve the problem bilaterally.

In the US, leaders of the Mexican community threatened to strike to send a message to US employers that they could not survive without cheap Mexican labour.

More: http://news.ft.com/cms/s/bf6dcbe2-c3da-11d9-a56d-00000e2511c8.html
 
In the US, leaders of the Mexican community threatened to strike to send a message to US employers that they could not survive without cheap Mexican labour.
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The mayor of Denver might not be able to get along without illegal aliens, but America could—and should.
 
This thread will surely get locked, but mr fox can <stuff it>.

It would be funny <> if 11 million hardworking mexicans returned to mexico and decided to fix their country. If they kick <Fox> even half as well as they mow lawns and dig ditches, Vincente Fox is <shafted>.
 
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Yeah, I do expect this thread to have a short life. :) But regardless of which reply gets it shut down the information itself needs to be out there. This is what we are dealing with. It's an indicator of just what leadership on both sides of the border wants for our future.

I say again, we are heading for a crisis unless someone pulls their head out damn soon.

BTW, Slurp, I ever tell ya I get a HUGE kick out of your monicker? :D
 
I sometimes really wonder what Fox expects. He maybe is used to his ''leak'' of personnel but - things are a bit different when boot on other foot - particularly if a ''visitor'' just happens to have one round of ammo, floating around in his vehicle.

The thread will survive reasonably - if contributions remain civil! :) ;)
 
I hear the French Riveria is nice this time of year .

I think the illegals need to go to the beach. They can have all sorts of free stuff by way of the gubmint, and the French will have folks that can fight in the event they ever get invaded again.

Dom Tescate has a nice ring to it - don't you agree? :D
 
It would be funny as hell if 11 million hardworking mexicans returned to mexico and decided to fix their country. If they kick ass even half as well as they mow lawns and dig ditches, Vincente Fox is screwed.
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Hmmm. Interesting idea.

Perhaps something like an education campaign that they'd be doing their families more good by fixing their country instead of coming here and sending the money home.

Of course I have no idea how you'd do that.
 
In the US, leaders of the Mexican community threatened to strike to send a message to US employers that they could not survive without cheap Mexican labour.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Umm, ok. When I lived in the Bay Area, we had "a day without a Mexican" as they called it. Same idea as above. All the janitors, gardeners, etc of Mexican descent decided to stay home in protest of something or other, some mistreatment they had recieved. Know what happened? Nothing. The Bay Area kept on truckin'. the rest of the working folks came to work, and things got done. No effect whatsoever. Zero, zip, nada.
 
Santiago Creel, Mexico's interior secretary, said the “Real ID†law was “negative, inconvenient, and obstructionistâ€.

“Building walls doesn't help anyone build a good neighbourhood,†he said. “Taking away the possibility of obtaining driving licences for people who are working in legal jobs, who pay their taxes there, who send remittances home here, seems to us to be an extreme measure, particularly given the new understanding that we thought we had after the re-election of President Bush.â€
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There we have it! Not only do the mexican government and many of its citizens have no respect for our laws, they have nerve enough to be mad that Bush isn't in as far in their back pocket as they thought he was. OTOH, I'll believe the good parts of the RealID bill when I see them happen, but I doubt it'll take long for the bad parts to be instituted. I really wish the rats in congress couldn't add completely unrelated amendments to bills.

Andrés Manuel López Obrador, mayor of Mexico City, supported Mr Fox's stance. He said the problem of growing immigration could be “resolved by encouraging development in Mexico and Central America, not by building walls and using the border controlâ€.
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And this guy wants us to give mexico a big handout and cross our fingers that all the illegal aliens will just go home. :fire: :cuss:
 
let's see...

mexico does not have to (though it could..a third world oil producing country..give me a break) build schools, roads, housing,medical facilities or infer-structure of any kind..encourages its people to journey "el norte"..in return it gets billions in remittances (second source of income next to oil production)

ya got to love it..the money sent back to mexico is "tax free" ie..its not taxed in the US..and its not taxed as "income" in mexico, thats for sure..but it does one thing that is NOT going to stop...sending more mexicans (and ever increasing central & south americans) to the US.

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As long as they can get what they need by continuing the invasion, they will have no incentive to fix their own problems at home.
Fox and his whole country have become one big, giant leach on the US's backside!
 
I have said it before, and I will say it again....I will gladly trade my comfy home and property, for a few hunderd acres, and a casa, beach side.... in Cancun. Point being, hey lets talk about this invasion thing, them here, or us there !!!!
 
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I have said it before, and I will say it again....I will gladly trade my comfy home and property, for a few hunderd acres, and a casa, beach side.... in Cancun. Point being, hey lets talk about this invasion thing, them here, or us there !!!!
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I kinda recall a law that only mexican citizens can own real property there.

I know for sure it's like that in the Philippines.

However, he in the US there're no real restrictions on who can buy real estate. Could you immagine the screaming and howling that would happen here if someone proposed a law restricting real estate ownership to US citizens? :evil:
 
Otherguy...good point, and I feel we should give them the same respect for their laws, as they give us...for our laws.
 
More fuel to the fire, this time from Mexico...

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Tough immigration talk backfires for Mexico's Fox

By Lorraine Orlandi
Reuters
Sunday, May 15, 2005; 5:33 PM

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexican President Vicente Fox's latest bid to convince U.S. policy makers to ease immigration controls for Mexican workers may have backfired after his tough talk late last week was roundly condemned as racist.

A frustrated Fox lashed out on Friday at new U.S. controls on immigrants, but he ended up red-faced over his own words.

"There is no doubt that Mexicans, filled with dignity, willingness and ability to work, are doing jobs that not even blacks want to do there in the United States," Fox told a group of Texas business people meeting in Mexico.

The comment was picked up by local and international media, drawing fire from U.S. civil rights activist Jesse Jackson, who said it had "ominous racial overtones."
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Mexico also has a thing about beating the hell out of illegals that cross their own southern border. I recall an article about it years ago and it hasn't changed. Mexico gives horrendous treatment to their own southern neighbors. The hypocracy is blatent but nobody has called them on it.
 
I heard on the news tonight something about some Mexican lawmakers support enforcing the emmigration laws. I do wonder...
Daggomit, I can't remember which network it was, or find it online.
 
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