Leupold Vari X-II or Nikon Buckmaster

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loneguitar

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I am in the market for a new rifle scope. I have a co worker that has a LNIB leupold Vari X-II 4-14AO (I know it's the discontinued model) he is selling for $200 or I can buy the Nikon Buckmaster 3x9 for $200 at Sportsmens Warehouse.
What do you folks suggest I do?
 
Those scopes are quite different.

The Leupold sounds like a target or varmint scope, or maybe something a long-range antelope hunter might use. The Nikon sounds like a standard "deer rifle" scope.

Which one do you want?

For hunting on foot, I'm not fond of lugging around a big, heavy scope, and variable magnification is a liability more than an asset for a few reasons. I'm thinking FXII on my next build, or even on my existing rifle.

But man, the sight picture through that Leupold 4-14AO will be a lot nicer, if it's a range gun.
 
I'd get the 3x9. The Leupold has too much magnification for hunting medium game. Now, if you're after prairie dogs with a .22-250 or target shooting at 1000 yards, forget what I'm sayin'. :D I like my 2x10 Weaver. I really like variables with low power choice. The 2x10 is about perfect for me, YMMV. I don't do any really long, over 400 yard stuff. Our range only goes to 200 yards. I like variables for the versatility since I hunt all sorts of styles, or have over the years. I only need a 4x fixed on stand at my place, but still hunting, I want the 2x, cross canyon out west, 6 or 7 anyway. Can't do that with a fixed, always a compromise.
 
Different 'Scopes for Different Folks....

Loneguitar--I'm with Armed Bear on this one. If you're planning on putting this on a deer hunting rifle that will be shot 5 rounds to sight in, and then, hopefully, twice more during season, and then never again until next sighting-in, the Buckmaster is the way to go.

Having said that, the Leupold is one heck of a lot more 'scope for the same money. Used or new makes no nevermind, given Leupold's XLNT owner support--plus the fact that the Leupold 'scope is unlikely to ever need servicing.

I'd be tempted to get the Leupold even for a deer rifle, but then, I shoot my deer rifles quite a bit in the off season, for load development, practice, paper punching, and I just enjoy shooting. As for its being "too much 'scope for hunting," you just turn it down to its 4x setting and leave it there while hunting.

Besides their warranty service, I really like a Leupold 'scope's nice clear sight picture...

So. It's your choice. YOU choose. You are the one who'll have to be using the durn thing. Hope it works out well for you, whatever is your final decision.
 
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As for its being "too much 'scope for hunting," you just turn it down to its 4x setting and leave it there while hunting.

For $270 NIB you can get an FXII and save a lot of weight, size, potential for problems due to moving parts.

There are real downsides to using "too much scope." If it's a 50mm scope, it will have to be mounted higher, which means your cheek weld will probably be poor on a sporter stock. It will weigh almost a half pound more than a 4X FX II, and the variable power, adjustable objective scope has more potential for leaks or other failures, since it has moving parts. A 40mm can be mounted a bit lower, but won't be so bright at high magnifications, and the rest of the "downsides" still apply.

A 4X33 FX II Leupold will give a bright picture on low rings, light weight and nothing to fail unless you drop the rifle from a tree or something. If 4X is the setting you'd use anyway, and you will be lugging the rifle around in brush and rough country, it's a better choice, hands down, than "more scope" would be. You can do plenty of practice shooting with a 4X, too, and that makes more sense anyway if it's a hunting rifle, unless you are trying to develop the ultimate rifle-specific sub-MOA handload or something.

If you hunt from an air-conditioned deer stand, none of that might matter, but in the dirt, I wouldn't be too excited about a big scope for medium game. The idea that "you can't have too much scope" is not really true.

If you want a target rifle, varmint rifle, antelope or coyote rifle, yes, get that Leupold. But for deer, I'd put the scope on the gun, even if I had to hold it there, and see what I REALLY thought about lugging it around, stock fit if it's a 50mm, etc.

WRT the 3-9X40mm, that's what I have (Burris). I leave it around 4X. Turning it all the way up just doubles the size of the image. That's not much, and not the "difference that makes a difference" on deer-sized or larger game. If I had it to do over again, I'd get a quality fixed scope for the "deer rifle", save some carry weight on the thing, have one less adjustment to worry about, and get the superior picture that a fixed scope can provide at the same price point.

That's just me. YMMV. etc. :)

I just think that there are reasons to choose a particular scope. Get the best quality you can afford. You'll regret going cheap. But, while getting the best quality you can, get the features that are appropriate to your intended use.
 
Thanks for all the replies. I went ahead and got the Leupold from my co-worker.
This will be on my deer gun, but I also shoot a lot during the off season, just because I enjoy it. Plus there is a chance that I may get to take a trip out west
in the some what neat future, so maybe the higher magnification will help if I am needing to take some long distance shots. I am lucky enough to have a local private range with a 400 yd rifle range, so I am sure I will put it to good use.
 
If you can still find the old nikon monarch's for sale, that would be a good way to go, 3-9 probably around 200 with better glass than either of those. The new ones are really nice too, but price is way too high. Its not a zeiss.
 
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