Lithuanian Battle Packs

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A topic from another thread that should have its own:

Any experience with the Lithuanian battle packs of 7.62x51? The research to date is:

"The .308 Lithuanian Military Surplus 146gr. FMJ Ammo. This ammo is brass cased, boxer primed, 100% non-corrosive and has an all copper FMJ bullet, so a magnet will not stick to the bullet. This ammo was manufactured in 2003-2004 by Giraites Ginkluotes Gamykla - Giraite Armament Factory in Lithuania. This Factory was established in 2000 and in 2002 the quality assurance system according to ISO 9001:2000 and ISO 14001:1996 standards was implemented. This is ammo is premium quality Mil-Spec. ammo. This ammo comes packed in 200rd. sealed waterproof battlepacks, 1000rds per wood crate."

as a 2nd hand opinion, now 3rd hand. Sounds like a sales brochure, not a user. Not much in the way of battle packs anymore, much pricier but - the ammo you can buy is cheaper than the ammo you can't buy.

Let me know, thinking about a couple crates. Don't want a couple crates of cr*p.

And why, of course, is Lithuania surplussing this stuff? Didn't they just join NATO?
 
Its headstamped GGG 03 and is awesome stuff. I have shot and reloaded (5-6 times) the brass in my G3. It is by far the best surplus 7.62x51 out there. It is way better then south african, a good bit better then the port, the only thing that i cant personally compare it to is the Australian as i have never shot any of it side by side with the GGG 03 stuff from Lithuania.

Yes they just joined nato, what is surplused is from the Gregori something plant that was not yet ISO9001 certified and could not yet stamp the nato cross as of 2003 when what is now on the surplus market from there was made. That being said it is still the best ammo i have ever shot in 7.62x51 and i see no reason what so ever to use lake city over it.
 
The only stuff out there right now that compares to this stuff in terms of price and quality (and also my own personal "mil-spec'ness" tests) is the 145 grain FMJBT plain white boxed and clear plastic battle packed Privi Partizan stuff that Wideners has. They are both (with the edge going to the lithuanian) as nice of M80 nato ball type stuff as you can get your hands on right now, as i said with no reason existing to ever have to reach for the lake city.

The only reason the edge for me goes to the Lithaunian is they are now ISO9001 and stamping the nato cross as of 2004, Privi is not. And i like the design of the projectile in the Lithuanian stuff a little better, dont ask me why, just look at it, its nice :)
 
I was debating whether I should toss onto this thread that a friend just sold me a 200 round battlepack of this stuff about a month ago for $35.00.

Yes.. I'm still smiling. :)


(I didn't rip him off-- it was part of a larger package of machine work he did for me. I paid him a LOT more than $35 that day)


He sold it because he decided that there was no way he could shoot it in his Remington 40 custom build.


-- John
 
It's terrible, isn't it. Unless you're Mr. Warren there. JWarren, have you shot it or is it cachet:rolleyes: material?

But what else am I supposed to feed the Thunder Lizard? Everytime I think of branching out I get talked out of it.

So I shelled out for 1000 rnds. I would have bought a 1000 rnds for my buddy but I just couldn't shell out $1000 bucks in one go for ammo "trigger unpulled". :scrutiny:
 
I bought a 1000 rounds of it 6 months ago. It was in 20 round cardboard boxes, not in plastic battle packs or a case from a local gun dealer who took it in trade. Only problem was nobody knew who manufactured it, had the GGG 04 headstamp. The brass was shiney and the 04 headstamp showed recent manufacture, but nobody knew of anyone selling so recent made .308.

Thanks for the info. Right now its cached with 2400 rounds of South African.
By the way I only paid $300 for it.:)
 
I've never heard of anyone reloading G3 brass before (much less 5-6 times!!). it usually get severely bent and stretched in the firing process due to the fluted chambers and extraction process. what are you doing to prevent this from happening?
 
It's terrible, isn't it. Unless you're Mr. Warren there. JWarren, have you shot it or is it cachet material?
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hehe... it's cached-- basically like all of my 7.62 NATO (which isn't near as much as I'd like in the cache.)


Realistically, I don't see me buring ammo in my .308 until I start reloading. I won't say that I am a tight-wad, but I just can't seem to enjoy shooting when I *know* how much it just cost me.

Now, when I really feel like burning some rounds, I pull out the Ruger 10/22 and a brick. I know... sad... but fun.



-- John
 
No, the primer pockets are not crimped. I run it through a 7.7jap neck sizing die to open the badly damaged necks up a little, then run it through the full size 308 die twice. The flute marks are evened out pretty well. I also trim it and chamfer the inside and outside edges of the mouth. I will take some pictures of my several time fired indian OFV brass, its funny as the delayed blowback/fluted chamber puts so much fource onto the head that the headstamps on some are amost flattened out. I have had no case failures or even almost failures that i have seen in bolt guns in this caliber.

The only thing that wont "iron-out" of the brass is the deep bite made by the ejector. But that hasnt seemed to kill any performance.

Like i said ill take pictures of some and put them on here in a bit when i get back from shooting.
 
Milsurp for .50 a round? Sheesh. I reload for .20 a round, using pulled milsurp bullets. (Just checked, and my supplier is out of stock, though...)
 
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