Loaded gun in the gun shop!?

[missed again]

Your experience may be different but I’ve found that a lot of people I know are buying guns and not getting direction or instruction.:banghead: What I hear from folks is that the courses are too expensive, too full and I’m not really going to shoot the gun, I’m not going hunting and I didn’t buy a rifle. They also have to be convinced that the shooters on either side of them at the range are concerned about their own targets, not the newbie’s and that no, I don’t always hit the center.

I’m not trying to convert an anti into a believer. I just believe we have to help newbie’s be safe with their new guns and take the next step by attending an NRA or other hands-on course. We all know people are buying guns at a record pace. We also know that they can walk out of some gun stores or shows with little more instruction than the “bullets” go in here.

 

[moooose102]

the other part of this is there is nothing stopping anyone from carrying in a live round and sticking it in the chamber while handling a gun. my favorite gun stores either have a trigger lock on all their displayed weapons, or a cable running through them to keep them on the shelfs until a salesperson comes to help you. they might sell a few less guns that way, but, they will never have to clean up blood from the floor either! yes, i hate it also when somebody does that in a store as well. when i pick up a gun to look at it, the muzzle is either pointed at the ceiling, or the floor. period.

 

[bigfatdave]

Your experience may be different but I’ve found that a lot of people I know are buying guns and not getting direction or instruction. What I hear from folks is that the courses are too expensive, too full and I’m not really going to shoot the gun, I’m not going hunting and I didn’t buy a rifle.

Which does not excuse a lack of common sense.
Once again ... "this end with hole makes hurty" isn't that hard, and in the information age, ignorance is no longer a valid excuse.

 

[Elvishead]

Just drive across town in your car, and your in way more in danger of being killed, triple fold!

Get over it, he's stupid, but so are most driver's.

BTW, I never had a car to car accident in the 25++ (++= legally Bellow 16 driving) years of driving, but I have had loaded gun pointed at me (Robbery), and I'm still more afraid of people that drive cars, 10 to 1, every time.

 

[SJ1]

A young man posted this at Rimfire Central yesterday:

i was at the range today and one guy shot his buddy trying to clear a jam out of his M&P 9mm pistol. it went through and through from one armpit to the other. i believe it hit his spine and paralyed him and punctured both lungs.

i called 911 and started administering CPR. i believe he died 10 mins later.
according to standards, i continued to to CPR until sheriffs depties arrived 40 minutes later. paramedics arrived after 50 minutes and a flight for life arrived approx 1 hour after the call to 911 was placed.

it didnt matter though.

a 25 year old man who was 2 weeks from getting married died in my care this afternoon because of careless gun handling.

please takea moment to pray for the soul of this man, the man who shot him accidentally and their families.

but also, take a moment to talk to your loved ones about gun safety and dont be afraid to approach someone to help them preactice gun safety while out at the range.

dont let this be you

 

[RoostRider]

A young man posted this at Rimfire Central yesterday:

i was at the range today and one guy shot his buddy trying to clear a jam out of his M&P 9mm pistol......

Related link? http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=463542

If so, we are talking about something WAY different than a loaded gun in a gun shop.

 

[benEzra]

If so, we are talking about something WAY different than a loaded gun in a gun shop.

Not much different at all. Both cases are careless violations of Rule Two, and they can get people killed in gun shops just like they can get people killed on the range. If the guy in the OP had "dry fired" the "unloaded" rifle when it was pointed in an unsafe direction, or if his finger had been unconsciously on the trigger (people clueless enough to point guns at other people aren't usually sticklers for trigger finger discipline, either), then the outcome could have been precisely the same.

If you are holding a gun in your hands, don't point it at people except in justifiable self-defense. It's that simple. "But it's UNLOADED!" is not an excuse for Rule Two violations.

 

[Debronduncan]

My kids are not gun 'nuts'; but I have taught them both to walk straight over to a gun when they encounter one in someone's home; pick it up, open the action and disable it or unload it.

That goes for gun shops too.

We live in a faster time now; more violence on TV; bigger, shinier hardware and we even see them mishandled on TV.

The safest way to be around guns is to consider all of them loaded and ready to fire and deal with them accordingly.

 

[Mst. Chief]

im not that blunt to just go in a store and start grabbin and wavin stuff around. nuts. i have tact, i know how to act for the situation. unbelievable the employee would stock that on the floor with one in the spout. unreal.

 

[rainbowbob]

My kids are not gun 'nuts'; but I have taught them both to walk straight over to a gun when they encounter one in someone's home; pick it up, open the action and disable it or unload it.

Debronduncan: Are you joking?

How old are your kids, if you don't mind my asking?

Have they/you heard of the NRA's "Eddie Eagle" program?

It teaches children to simply remember:

"Stop...don't touch...walk away...tell an adult."

I can't imagine training my children to handle unfamiliar firearms - or any firearms - without my direct supervision.

They should know how to - yes.

But I can't understand the justification for instructing children to "...walk straight over to a gun when they encounter one in someone's home pick it up, open the action and disable it or unload it."