Muzzled in a gun shop?

[sevesteen]

How are the 4 rules handled by employees at gun shops in your area? Here, when I ask to see a handgun, they will generally chamber-check, keep their finger off the trigger, but point the muzzle right at me when they hand it to me. This isn't one shop, but most of them when I've asked to see a handgun.

 

[Nil]

I've never been muzzled by the employees but the customers in the gun department of any major sporting goods store (Cabela's, Scheel's, Gander Mountain, etc.) create a veritable muzzle sweeping smorgasbord.

 

[Bones11b]

Employees at the shops I frequent usually double check the weapon and then lay it on a rubberized mat on top of the counter in front of me. I do the same when handing it back. If I was swept by a muzzle in a irresponsible fashion I would say something.

 

[kermit315]

I got not only muzzled but scoped by a guy at Shooters Paradise in Oxnard one day when he got his new Savage in. He noticed the unhappy look and quickly quit doing it.

 

[Guitargod1985]

There's a local shop here that has an indoor range attached. One day after shooting my Springfield XD, HK USPc, and Sig P229, I checked the guns to make sure that they were unloaded and safe and proceeded to the counter with the guns in their cases.

I asked one of the guys, "How much do you think I could sell this XD for?"
He goes, "Let me take a look," so I took it out of the case, double checked the chamber and handed it to him, wherupon he proceeded to point it right at me while inspecting the weapon with his trigger finger INSIDE THE TRIGGER GUARD.

I told the guy that he really shouldn't point that at me, especially with his finger inside the trigger guard.

Then he says, "It's unloaded, man. Relax."

I asked him if he, himself, checked the chamber and he tells me that because of the loaded chamber indicator, he doesn't need to. Then this moron gives me a low-ball offer for the pistol - probably just because I was concerned about my safety. What a moron.

 

[Baneblade]

I always get a kick out of watching a friend who works in a gun shop. If I hang out for 1/2 hour someone will always come in and do something stupid. Never fails.

However, I can always tell by the look on his face when a would-be customer has just come in with a loaded gun asking "how much" while pointing the gun at his stomach. They would-be customer is then "firmly" asked to leave.

 

[Black Adder LXX]

Happens all the time here. Rarely by gun shop employees. Frequently by bangers holding it sideways whilst showing their hommies they 'foh-tay'...

 

[eliphalet]

point the muzzle right at me

Don't just stand there tell em you don't care for to have a firearm pointed at you, unloaded or not. I would be polite the first time, but thats all.

 

[JamisJockey]

I was in a Gander mountian a few days ago and had a different experience. Clerk hands guy a S&W MP. Guy does a Miami vice simulated draw, but when he saw someone walking into his line of sight he pointed the weapon up until they passed. I was surprised, especially after watching him hoist the weapon like he was on a low budget TV cops show.

 

[Correia]

When I read the title of this thread, I thought it was about when I bring my children to work...

The guys that work for me do a good job. We harp constantly on safety, even when it is in a hard environment. (gun show booth with people in every direction, do the safest thing you can, which is usually straight down).

I understand where you guys are coming from though. Years before I got into this business, I was thrown out of a local store for threatening to beat up one of their employees. I got tired of him pointing a gun at me, and when he pointed it at one of my kids, my fingers left a semi-permenant indentation in his wrist. I'm banned for life, had to go open my own store.

 

[lance22]

Just like any other place ... getting behind the counter doesn't make you competent. The absolute worst I've seen was at Galyans in Woodbury, MN before they became "Dicks". At Galyans, I pretty much expected every guy behind the counter to look down the business end of the handgun barrel before handing it over with his finger in the trigger guard.

Everywhere I go, especially the Gander in Maplewood, MN there are homies waving around a 'gat pretending to be fiddy cent but I don't blame the shop for that ... I'm sure there isn't much you can do about that.

 

[230RN]

Then he says, "It's unloaded, man. Relax."

BANG

Seems the customers are the worst. In one incident, I had to brush the guy's gun away from me twice as he was showing it off to me.

I was a customer, too, so I felt authorized to diplomatically ask him very nicely and pleasantly to keep the effing gee-dee muzzle away from me.

 

[.cheese.]

I had a similar experience to Guitargod1985

It was my first time to a gun shop. I was still pretty much an anti, not knowing anything about guns and being pretty scared of them.

From the parking lot, I walk up to the gun shop and see somebody through the door pointing a rifle at me..... I start to panic.

For whatever reason I decided to keep walking towards the shop instead of run for my life.

I look through the window to see if everybody is staring at me with their guns pointed at me too.... nope... just this one guy. One of the shopkeeps buzzes the door open.... as I walk in the guy is still pointing the rifle in the same direction, which is initially at me, until I walk around him. Finger was on the trigger.

Shopkeep says, "Don't worry... it's not loaded."

I say, "Famous last words."

I did some looking at that shop.... never bought.... haven't been back since then.

 

[Harley Quinn]

Next time that happens do a quick left hand slap and then push with your right hand and bend the firearm back onto the finger of the salesman

See if they ever sell you a firearm

 

[welldoya]

I had a friend tell me the other day that a friend of his came into his office to show him his new purchase and the idiot pointed the laser right at his forehead.

 

[waterhouse]

I generally lock the action open and then either hand it to the customer while pointing in a safe direction or lay it down and let them pick it up.

 

[springmom]

I feel like I'm cheating a bit to tell the story, as it isn't mine, but a friend who works at my local favorite gun shop/range swears to it:

Guy comes in one day, wants to shoot on the short-distance range (sort of the handgun range, except this is where people come with their PGO's etc.) He has a semiauto shotgun with him, and the ejection port's not open. Clerk demands that he open the gun. Guy points it at him and says, "It's not loaded", then hefts it upward, finger on the trigger, and...

BAM

The clerk grabbed it away from the customer, and proceeded to cycle the bloody shotgun until it was empty.

Then handed it back to the customer, told him to get the h*** out.

Oh, and the customer? Harris County Sheriff's deputy. Threatened to arrest the clerk. Got banned from the store.

Stupid is as stupid does....

Springmom

 

[wheelgunslinger]

I always have problems with doofi in gun stores muzzling me.
"Hey man, what'd I ever do to you?"
"What?"
"Why are you pointing a loaded gun at me? What'd I ever do to you?"
"It's not loaded!"
"All guns are loaded."

I especially love the guy who's standing there yammering on at the clerk with his copious weapons knowledge while muzzling me.

I've never had an employee muzzle me.

 

[CNYCacher]

I swept the clerk the other day immediately after he handed me a a handgun. He handed it to me action-open with the muzzle pointed to my right and the top of the gun facing me. I swung it around into my hand and swept him with it. Keep in mind that the action was open , mag was on the table and he had just cleared it. I felt horrible, and kinda froze for a second, staring down at the gun, not really sure if I should apologize or something.

I felt a little better a few minutes later when he was putting the trigger guard back on the gun and he jammed the muzzle into his own gut with the action closed to try and hold it steady.

Yeah.

 

[Big Calhoun]

I've only had it once. The usual gunstore I go to is pretty good when it comes to safety; maybe this was an off night. Was persuing a Springfield XD45 and the gent wanted to show me how versatile it was to carry. So in between OWB, IWB, 'mexican carry', etc., he swept me a few times. I guess because I didn't see the striker sticking out of the rear or the loaded chamber indicator sticking up, I let it slide. COme to think about it, he doesn't work there anymore. Go figure.

 

[CountGlockula]

I work at a shooting range and everytime someone wants to look at a gun:

• I check the chamber.
• Lock open the slide/keep the wheel out for revolvers.
• Set it on the glass counter with the muzzle facing to my left and step away from the muzzle's direction.

I never hand a gun to a customer. Lastly, I always tell the customer to keep the action open because it's OUR policy.

This usually, emphasizes our range safety rules. But it doesn't prevent the customer from sweeping me, THEN I remind them to not point the gun at me!

 

[JColdIron]

I went to a little Pawn shop the other day in the small town I live in. There were a couple of 1911's that I wanted a better look at so I ask the guy in the store to see them.

He reached into the case and pulled the first one out of the it with his finger fully on the trigger- Pointed somewhat at my groin

I took a step to the left to clear my jewels from the firing line and let him set it on the case rather than taking it from his hand- finger still on the trigger... Looked at the Auto Ord 1911 and saw that they wanted $599 for it

I got the feeling I will not be back there anytime soon

 

[Deathrider1579]

You know I've never really paid that much attention.

 

[steveno]

when I worked at Cabela's the biggest problems were with the customers and their lack of gunhandling smarts. it was a very rare day when I didn't get a gun pointed at me by a customer or they were pointing a gun down an aisle with another customer in the same aisle.

 

[jlbraun]

I was in a shop and an employee was testing the new holosight on an FN PS90 by pointing it at my chest.

I hear they fired him.