Loaded my first batch!!!

[dpart77]

Finally stepped up to a turret reloader. The Lee classic turret is awesome. It really does a great job. I do have a few questions tough.

All of the cases looked great EXCEPT the PMC cases. You could clearly where the bullet was residing in the case. By that I mean the case was slightly bulged around the bullet. It cycles in my Kimber fine. Is this a problem? Does anybody have any ideas whats up with the PMC cases. All the onter ones looked great.

I also have some brass labled R P. Is this Remington?

One more thing. Does anyone have a good target load for unique using 230 grain lead bullets using Unique in 45 ACP?

Thanks in advance

 

[dcloco]

Rock on!

PMC cases are, generally, thinner brass. Which is the reason that I don't reload PMC cases. Got a scale, check the weight difference for yourself.

RP stands for Remington Products.

230 grain in what caliber? Rifle, pistol, or autoloader?

 

[WildeKurt]

I just ordered a Classic Turret from Midway. It should be here in a few days. Can't wait. What did you load and what power did you use?

 

[benedict1]

One more thing. Does anyone have a good target koad for unique using 230 grain lead bullets using Unique.

As you post you'll learn to give more info. What are we talking about here? .45 ACP? .45 Colt? .44 Mag?--You have to be more specific. You could get some really bad info if you're not careful with your questions!--

 

[scrat]

R P


remington peters


Not remington products

i like them. always had good luck with their cases.

1934: On May 15, 1934 Remington purchased the Peters Cartridge Company for $2.5 million. The Peters Cartridge Company operated an ammunition facility located in Kings Mill, Ohio.

 

[FieroCDSP]

Congrats on your first batch!! I know I was excited on my first ones. I wasn't very impressed with PMC at all. I picked up several boxes and had more mis-fires than anything else. I won't touch them again. When you get two or three FTF in a mag, there's a problem, and it ain't with the gun. I've still ogt one around here with a live primer, but I pulled the bullet and dumped the powder. I would stay away from them. GEt a few boxes of Remington or CCI Blazer Brass. I've reloaded a lot of mine and had no trouble. Range bin dive and feel the surge of adrenaline when you realize your ammo is almost free.

 

[The Bushmaster]

Hummm...I must remember to weigh some PMC cases...Here I've been loading them all these years with no problem...What weight difference do you have between, oh say, Remington-Peters cases and PMC or maybe Winchester???

 

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

Congrats on your first reloads. Are you using the Lee FCD?

Regards,

Dave

 

[Poper]

PMC brass

Bushy:
I too, have had poor luck with PMC. Rifle brass, .270 Win. to be exact. About a third of the necks of the cases pulled off after second firing while full length resizing. (Yes, I lubed the inside of the necks, too!) The brass was thin (about 4.5 gn lighter than Winchester on the average) and seemed somewhat brittle. Tossed all I had after that.
This happend about 10 years ago. It was rumored then that PMC brass production was outsourced to Korea.
I haven't bothered to pick it up since. The new stuff may be better, I don't know.

Just my two cents, FWIW.

Poper

 

[The Bushmaster]

Poper...That may make the difference as all I ever have loaded of the PMC is their .45 ACP. I don't believe I have any rifle brass. I am going to weigh some various .45 ACP cases though. Just to be curious...

O K...Just weighed (at randum) five head stamped .45 ACP cases. Yes I know. Not rifle cases, but it is all I have in PMC, R-P, Speer, Fed, and Win. These are averages of the five cases weighed of each head stamps in grains.

PMC: 85.3 . R-P: 84.82 . Speer: 82.7 . Fed: 82.32 . Win: 87.06 . Speer had the longest diviation from 78.8 to 89.0 . Win was the closest diviation of 86.4 to 87.9 . I doubt this will be of any help as far as it may pertain to rifle cases, but one can see why Winchester cases are favored by many, including me...By The Way Speer and Federal seem to be the lightest. Hummm. I have had excellent service from Speer cases and fair service from Federal cases.

 

[dpart77]

Sorry Guys I was looking for 230 grain lead using Unique in 45 ACP. My bad.

Thanks for the info. This forum is great!!!

Yes I am using a lee FCD.. It seem to work very well.

 

[jeepmor]

In 45ACP, I have never noted an issue with any brass. I think the pressure is simply too low for devestating effects. With my 10mm however, I have had a problem with reloading starline, but never an issue with Federal or Remington. Don't have any experience with others, if I do, I don't pay enough attention to the headstamp.

BTW - starlines split along the axis of the case on the side. I tossed all of them as was quite disappointed when my 4 boxes of double tap showed up with only one box of nickel cases stamped with the DT logo. All else was starline. For the record though, never had any issues with starline on the first firing from the factory loads. And DT stuff is stout without a doubt.

 

[Walkalong]

I too load all kinds of .45 brass. I have had excellent luck with Winchester and Starline. Others do fine, just don't seem to hold up as long.

BACK to the other half of the question:

As far as a target load for 230 Gr. bullets and Unique like dpart77 askedfor in the original post. I dunno. I don't use Unique. Will someone help dpart77 out?

 

[roger26]

unique powder on a .45acp reload

for the 230 grain .45acp and unique. Use 5.3-5.4 grains. Gives you 813fps with a power factor of 187. it's a good heavy RN or semi-wad cutter load. Also, make sure your brass is tumbled and clean. (Helps cut down maintence on your Lee reloader and gun).

 

[Zippy06]

Congrats. dpart77.
Lee is great. Isn't it.
I have had a turret since '86.
This summer moving up to .308 Win.
Been buying brass and bullets on e-bay.

 

[CZ223]

As far as the PMC brass goes

I think that the problem, if you can call it that, is the opposite of what DCLOCO thought. I believe that the case walls are probably thicker on the PMC Brass. When you resize your brass they will all be dimesionaly identical on the exterior. When you force the bullet in the case you cause the exterior of the case to expand slightly, how much it expands depends on case wall thickness. The thicker the case wall the greater the exterior dimension of the case. The case will only expand to the point where the bullet is forced in leaving the base of the case actually smaller in exterior dimension. When I reload for a few wildcats, we refered to this as wasp-wasted or hour glass. As long as the cartidge functions properly it will be fine. The only dowside is that case life will most likely be shortened due to overworking the case. I have had no problem with PMC brass in the past and, in fact, really remember liking it at one time. I haven't reloaded much of it in the last few years because I bought most of my Cowboy brass from Star line.

 

[dpart77]

Thanks guys

Zippy, you are correct, I could not be happier with my classic turret. I turned out 200, 357 rounds in an hour the other day. That was just the 4th time I had used that machine. I cannot say enough good things about the Lee turret press. It was a good choice for me since I was moving up from a since stage press.

D