Loads and bullets for 35 Whelen?

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I am looking for advice on 180 grain bullets @ 2400 fps for 35 Whelen, for reduced recoil and practice on varmints with similar trajectory to full power 250 grain loads.

Wondering if I should use 35 Rem bullets or 357 bullet (180 grain XTP?)?
 
I would use the Hornady 180gr-XTP. I haven't used it yet but plan to in my .35 Rem.. It has two crimp grooves, one for pistols such as .357mag in revolvers which must be short enough for cylinders to turn, another for such as T/C contender which allow seating bullet out. Price is much better than Speer rifle bullet. Also, the Remington 180 Cor-lok HP is attractively priced. Another good choice I'm told is the FN-SP 158gr Rem. pistol bullet.

BTW, I had a failure to adequately expand and lost a deer this past year with a 180 Speer FN rifle bullet. Can't say exactly why, though blood trail was profuse at first and stopped completly after deer layed down and evidently got up as I trailed closer, as last site I found blood was where blood was puddled under bush where deer had evidently layed. Deer went down hard at shot, and took third attempt to get up and run. I didn't shoot second time figuring it was all over with and would just potentially ruin meat. Shot was a frontal-angled shot and bullet probably failed to hit bone. No bone fragments or organ tissue was found. I had similar failure year previously with 200gr Hornady RN. That was on a larger deer and was a well called lung shot. Similar results. However, the Remington 200gr Cor-lokts are 100%. I load these over *40.0gr of H4895 for 2,275 fps from 20" bbl. Except for the Remington 200 Cor-lokt, the .358 Rifle bullets seem to be constructed for the .35 Whelen, and .350 Mags, and are la little "tough" for the .35 Rem on deer, but should work well on bear, hogs and bigger ungulates(elk, moose).

I believe that the 180 Hornady pistol bullet will be a lot more explosive.
FWIW, the load was NOT light. *43.0gr of Win748 over WLP primer from Win. case. Chrono's at 2,450fps from 20"bbl. Marlin 336.

* -This is max. for MY gun, no pressure signs, easy levering-no stickiness or case burnishing, ARE ABOVE BOOK LISTED MAXIMUMS so use your own discretion and work up to these loads first.

You should expect the point of impact to be somewhat different due to different barrel harmonics due to difference in bullet weight and chamber pressures between different bullet weights and reduced loadings.
 
158 gr .357 mag pistol bullets work great for LOW power practice loads for kids and NO recoil. Accuracy was really good in my guns at 50 yds or so. Didn't try them at longer ranges. I suspect they would be good for close range varmits too! Could crank 'em up till they would explode on small creatures. I used IMR 4895 powder.
 
Whalen Loads

I used up to 48 grains of 3031 with 200 and 250 grain Hornaday bullets.
It was a 30-06 necked up and with heavier bullets for busting through heavy brush for my deer hunting a long time ago.

John Paul
 
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