Lone wolf barrel

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I have been looking at a Lone Woll barrel for my glock23 and 27 and was wondering if I could get a barrel for my 23 and use it on my 27. I know that there are better quality barrels available, but the lone wolf is in my budget.

 

[LiveLife]

G23 barrel will work for G27. G22 barrel will not work in either G23/G27.

I am very happy with Lone Wolf barrels (40S&W and 9mm conversion) I use for my G22/G27.

 

[jackpinesavages]

http://www.storm-lake.com/


http://www.efkfiredragon.com/


Skip the LWD. Buy American.

 

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jackpinesavages I looked at the storm lake barrel at midway usa but I was turned off by the semi drop fit and gunsmithing required note on the storm lake barrels.

 

[LiveLife]

Buy American.

We are talking about "Glock" ...

 

[gofastman]

Skip the LWD. Buy American.

Skip American, buy cheeper, just-as-good-quality

I have nothing but good things to say about LWD barrels, and LWD in general.

That said, I read a lot of satisfied reports from Storm Lake and KKM owners, too

 

[mgmorden]

ackpinesavages I looked at the storm lake barrel at midway usa but I was turned off by the semi drop fit and gunsmithing required note on the storm lake barrels.

That's mostly CYA for them. I'll most likely drop in and work fine, but it MIGHT require gunsmith fitting. That's kinda your indicator that it's not worth it. A barrel worth the investment over the stock one really needs to be fitted. A drop in barrel has tolerances loose enough to work any in any pistol, which means its accuracy will not be as good as a fitted barrel.

I know you said this was "in your budget", but IMHO if you're not going to go up to a better barrel, then you're just wasting money. The only exception would be if you're getting it to shoot cast lead loads.

 

[jackpinesavages]

http://www.kkmprecision.com/custom_pistol_barrels/home.php?cat=15

Got one on my 24, with a comp.. Incredible.

 

[Hangingrock]

A barrel worth the investment over the stock one really needs to be fitted. A drop in barrel has tolerances loose enough to work any in any pistol, which means its accuracy will not be as good as a fitted barrel.

Not to be argumentative but do you believe the Glock OEM barrels are individually fitted or with in an acceptable tolerance range to drop in fit during assembly. Usually most aftermarket barrels are acquired for the usage of lead bullets as opposed to “National Match” accuracy requirements.

 

[ku4hx]

I have the exact setup you're contemplating; worked just as LW said it would. Accuracy is outstanding in both the 23 and 27 and functioning has been flawless.

 

[mgmorden]

Not to be argumentative but do you believe the Glock OEM barrels are individually fitted or with in an acceptable tolerance range to drop in fit during assembly. Usually most aftermarket barrels are acquired for the usage of lead bullets as opposed to “National Match” accuracy requirements.

The OEM barrels are drop-in fit, but that was my point. If you're just buying another drop-in barrel, you might get SOME improvement in accuracy, but if accuracy is your goal, then a drop-in barrel isn't likely to be enough of improvement to justify the cost - you've already got a decent barrel in the OEM option. If the goal is just to shoot lead bullets, then you're probably ok (I'd be leary of assuming that the desire to shoot lead is the motive behind "most" aftermarket barrel acquisitions though).

If you truly want an accuracy increase - get something like a Bar-sto barrel and get it properly fitted by a smith.

 

[LiveLife]

Usually most aftermarket barrels are acquired for the usage of lead bullets as opposed to “National Match” accuracy requirements.

but if accuracy is your goal ... you truly want an accuracy increase ...

Very good point. There's an inherent maximum built-in accuracy of Glock platform from the factory that no amount of barrel swapping or component replacement that will change that inherent built-in accuracy. I have seen people go past the point of diminishing return on Glock accuracy.

We are talking about 3"-4" accuracy at 25 yards, not 1" accuracy from 1911 platform - and no, Glocks will never attain 1" average groups at 25 yards no matter what barrel you put in your Glock.

Beside, Dave Sevigny competed with near bone stock factory Glock to win just about all the match divisions he competed in. So an aftermarket barrel with comparable accuracy to factory should be more than good enough for most USPSA/IDPA level of accuracy,

Now, if you want "National Match" or "Bullseye Match" level of pin point accuracy, you may want a different platform.

 

[Hangingrock]

(I'd be leary of assuming that the desire to shoot lead is the motive behind "most" aftermarket barrel acquisitions though).

If you truly want an accuracy increase - get something like a Bar-sto barrel and get it properly fitted by a smith.

I believe in part the subject is Glock. After market barrels for Glock is a perceived need is driven by the usage of lead bullets as opposed to accuracy enchantment. As for Bar-Sto barrels in reference to Glock I have one installed in a G21. I was totally satisfied with the OEM barrel except for lead bullet usage which may or may not be problematic depending on whom you believe.

 

[jackpinesavages]

Well, on my part, it has not been perception but how I have bought used Gs-with extra barrels. I also like the conversion 10mms for my 21s and 21sf. Lone Wolf has been hit/miss, and their corporate values are against mine own values. YMMV.

 

[LiveLife]

Lone Wolf has been hit/miss, and their corporate values are against mine own values.

I bought my Lone Wolf barrels with the understanding they were a USA company and expected the barrels to be USA manufacture.

I have been happy with the quality and performance of four LWD barrels I have but I do prefer to support USA companies and domestic manufacturing when I can. If I was buying replacement/conversion barrels again for Glocks, I would not have any problem ordering Storm Lake barrels, especially at $126 compared to $100 for Lone Wolf - http://www.manventureoutpost.com/ca...s,-&-Barrel-Accessories/?sort=featured&page=5

All the shooters I know who have bought Lone Wolf barrels have had good experience with them. As to them being hit/miss, I don't know what that means (like as in fit?). They do come with lifetime warranty and one could invoke that warranty if they have any issues.

The reasons why I still endorse Lone Wolf barrels are that they have fully supported chamber, especially for 40S&W and have the tightest chambers that I know and they will not bulge the case regardless of powder/charge used. It makes it for very easy resizing of spent cases and extend case life. Of course, with any tight spec match barrels, it will take more effort to get the finished rounds to feed/chamber, but that's not unique to Lone Wolf.

 

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My intent for the barrel is to shoot lead cast bullets through both. I have been using berrys for a while now, but the last price increase brought them up to almost a $100 a thousand. It is almost time for another order of bullets and my thinking was that I could spend the $100 on a barrel and I could cast all I need. I know some say it is ok to shoot lead through glock factory barrels without problems, but these are my carry and backup weapons so I really dont want to shoot lead through them. I figured that if the barrel leads I can let it soak in Hoppes and still be able to carry the gun with the factory barrel. I already cast for my 1911 and 38 specials so all I will have to invest in is a bullet mould which I have already ordered. I am not looking for pinpoint accuracy since the only shooting that I do with both Glocks is combat type training and minute of center mass accuracy is all that I am looking for. Thanks for all the replies

 

[LiveLife]

[email protected], Lone Wolf 40S&W chambers will be tight as they are made for .400" jacketed diameter bullets.

If you have chambering issue with larger .401" diameter lead bullets (I use .421" taper crimp), you can have LWD enlarge the chamber for you (not covered by warranty) before or after the purchase. Many reloaders will send LWD samples of their lead dummy rounds so LWD can custom tailor the chamber for your rounds.

You can do this yourself (not too difficult). I enlarged a G27 Lone Wolf barrel for a friend on this thread - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=561116

 

[jackpinesavages]

According to my Brownells catalog the Storm Lake, Bar Sto, and KKM barrels are made in USA.

LWD are NOT.






"I bought my Lone Wolf barrels with the understanding they were a USA company and expected the barrels to be USA manufacture.

I have been happy with the quality and performance of four LWD barrels I have but I do prefer to support USA companies and domestic manufacturing when I can. If I was buying replacement/conversion barrels again for Glocks, I would not have any problem ordering Storm Lake barrels, especially at $126 compared to $100 for Lone Wolf -"

 

[HM2PAC]

So who makes LWD barrels?
On their website they list themselves as the manufacturer. Are the barrels not made in Idaho?

 

[jackpinesavages]

HM2, I'm not sure, but the Brownels catalog does not list them as being Made In USA as many others are.

LWD fit and performance has been spotty compared to the others.

Accuracy is not as good.

I've communicated with the LWD Corp. about their politics and sponsorship on questionable sites, and they really could not give a rat's a** about documented fraud and anti-LEO activity therein. If you hate cops and love sub-par products, buy LWD.

 

[HM2PAC]

If you hate cops and love sub-par products, buy LWD.

I neither hate cops or have any affection for sub-par products. My LWD bbl works just fine.

I just wanted to know where the bbl is made.

According to my Brownells catalog the Storm Lake, Bar Sto, and KKM barrels are made in USA.

LWD are NOT.

In one post you seem rather adamant that they are of foreign make. In response to my question, you said you weren't sure.

Does anyone have any accurate information as to where the LWD bbl's are manufactured or is it a squirreled away secret that LW won't divulge?

 

[451 Detonics]

Lone Wolf emphatically states their barrels are not made in China...I have seen some say they are made in Taiwan, my bet would have been made in the Philippines. At any rate the one in my competition Glock shoots very well, I have no complaints about accuracy.

 

[HM2PAC]

Thanx 451 Detonics.
That's about the most information I've heard yet on the subject.