MisterMike
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The one factor on which I'd offer disagreement from the OP is reliability. The G26 will be as close to 100% reliable as any handgun of any price. The real difference is in weight and form.
Looking for a new CCW - LCR or G26?
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mud - I'm open to consideration, but whatever I get has to be as close to 100% reliable as it gets.
ben86- The reason I'm in the market for a new CCW is that my Kahr PM9 has proven to be completely unreliable and Kahr couldn't/wouldn't fix it. I'm done with them. It's too bad because it was the perfect carry piece IMO.
ben86- The reason I'm in the market for a new CCW is that my Kahr PM9 has proven to be completely unreliable and Kahr couldn't/wouldn't fix it. I'm done with them. It's too bad because it was the perfect carry piece IMO.
mud - see this link: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=540739&highlight=pm9
xXxplosive
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You would opt for a Ruger over a S&W revolver.......Hmmmm.....better rethink that decision.
It's silly to debate this. Its a revolver vs. revolver question. A "glock" is nothing more than a 15 shot revolver in disguise.
All kidding aside...get the G26. Once you go "glock", you won't go back. I resisted getting a glock....but in hindsight, I could have saved myself a lot of trial and error with many many guns. The G26 (and G27) may be the finest concealed carry guns out there. Perfect balance of small size, good capacity, and large enough caliber, legendary reliability, ruggedness, and yes... I even like their looks. They just have that "tough" look that you don't get in other pistols.
I have handled the LCR. It feels like a toy in one's hands. It just doesn't feel rugged enough to inspire my confidence in it for a primary side arm.
All kidding aside...get the G26. Once you go "glock", you won't go back. I resisted getting a glock....but in hindsight, I could have saved myself a lot of trial and error with many many guns. The G26 (and G27) may be the finest concealed carry guns out there. Perfect balance of small size, good capacity, and large enough caliber, legendary reliability, ruggedness, and yes... I even like their looks. They just have that "tough" look that you don't get in other pistols.
I have handled the LCR. It feels like a toy in one's hands. It just doesn't feel rugged enough to inspire my confidence in it for a primary side arm.
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Rat - not sure if you missed my post, but I can no longer trust a Kahr after my PM9 failures. If Kahr can't/won't figure out what's wrong with the gun (even after I spent the nearly $70 to send it to them), then they will not get anymore of my business EVER.
EMT40SW
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Go with the Glock 26 & a spare 17 rnd mag. Join GSSF & get one for $399 new:
http://www.gssfonline.com/GSSF_Pistol_Purchase_Program_Information.pdf
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http://www.gssfonline.com/GSSF_Pistol_Purchase_Program_Information.pdf
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I agree the two guns are not really in the same catagory. BUT its really about what feels good to you AND what you shoot best.
I carry a 442 around and I like it, nice and light I forget its there. The LCR will be like that too. AND I'm looking at glocks now
almost the same model you are looking at. (27)
NOW the LCR is made in .357 and its the same price as the .38 model so...why get the .38? I have shot the LCR .357, it come with a larger grip then the 442 does which is nice. I shot +P+ .38s and recoil was easy to manage.
The same day I shot the glock (one right after the next) For me the glock was easier to hit the target with. At 10 yards I put 15 rounds into a 6 inch area firing semi fast. (yes the guy had a 15 round mag for it) It's not me so much as glocks are just easy to shoot.
Here is what made me want to get a glock. My 442 is great but it has only 5 rounds of +P in it, the glock has 10 standard and can hold a lot more rounds in other mags. Simple as that; at times I am going to want to carry a lot more than 5 rounds.
Also the G26 is the same size as the G27 .40 cal SO if power is an issue for your CCW you could have alot more in the same size gun.
Oh yeah the Gen 4 27 is due out soon too. Looks nice.
As you and Jon already addressed you will end up with both anyhow SO just go buy them. (Its actually really nice having a choice in what I carry for different situations, weather, clothes. Go! Go now!)
I carry a 442 around and I like it, nice and light I forget its there. The LCR will be like that too. AND I'm looking at glocks now
almost the same model you are looking at. (27)NOW the LCR is made in .357 and its the same price as the .38 model so...why get the .38? I have shot the LCR .357, it come with a larger grip then the 442 does which is nice. I shot +P+ .38s and recoil was easy to manage.
The same day I shot the glock (one right after the next) For me the glock was easier to hit the target with. At 10 yards I put 15 rounds into a 6 inch area firing semi fast. (yes the guy had a 15 round mag for it
) It's not me so much as glocks are just easy to shoot.Here is what made me want to get a glock. My 442 is great but it has only 5 rounds of +P in it, the glock has 10 standard and can hold a lot more rounds in other mags. Simple as that; at times I am going to want to carry a lot more than 5 rounds.
Also the G26 is the same size as the G27 .40 cal SO if power is an issue for your CCW you could have alot more in the same size gun.
Oh yeah the Gen 4 27 is due out soon too. Looks nice.
As you and Jon already addressed you will end up with both anyhow SO just go buy them.
(Its actually really nice having a choice in what I carry for different situations, weather, clothes. Go! Go now!)
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Bookworm
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No no, there is no comparison between the lightweight revolver and G26.
I used to alternate carrying my G26 and my S&W 642. Both are extremely reliable, yet the glock requires a holster, is heavier and bulkier. It has printing issues unless you dress around it. So much more "work". I still carry one or the other, but the revolver gets carried much more often.
The revolver requires a simple pocket holster that you can simply slip into your front pocket and go, and barely even notice it's there. No printing issues. No special mode of dress, and absolutely no hassle. And a 10 dollar holster as opposed to close to a hundred.
I would suggest the lightest effective CCW you can. You will have an easier time with your mode of dress, and are more likely to actually carry it.
Don't let anyone tell you how carrying a gun means you have to dress a certain way, how it is such a grave responsibility it changes your lifestyle, ect. I've seen plenty of posts on gun forums like that. I'm pretty secure in myself, thanks, and go with simplicity.
That said, I've read a complaint about the Ruger LCRs in that firing the cartridges were cutting into the plastic frame behind the cylinder. Consider the steel S&W or Taurus lightweights for a pocket pistol.
I used to alternate carrying my G26 and my S&W 642. Both are extremely reliable, yet the glock requires a holster, is heavier and bulkier. It has printing issues unless you dress around it. So much more "work". I still carry one or the other, but the revolver gets carried much more often.
The revolver requires a simple pocket holster that you can simply slip into your front pocket and go, and barely even notice it's there. No printing issues. No special mode of dress, and absolutely no hassle. And a 10 dollar holster as opposed to close to a hundred.
I would suggest the lightest effective CCW you can. You will have an easier time with your mode of dress, and are more likely to actually carry it.
Don't let anyone tell you how carrying a gun means you have to dress a certain way, how it is such a grave responsibility it changes your lifestyle, ect. I've seen plenty of posts on gun forums like that. I'm pretty secure in myself, thanks, and go with simplicity.
That said, I've read a complaint about the Ruger LCRs in that firing the cartridges were cutting into the plastic frame behind the cylinder. Consider the steel S&W or Taurus lightweights for a pocket pistol.
Pretty short thread with no details as to Kahr's assessment or response. While I've never seen a failure like the one you described with either of my Kahrs I can understand your hesitancy given the experience you had. However, I'd be willing to bet it's something simple unless you've sent the gun to Kahr for warrant work and it was returned after repairs and still doesn't work.
lucky-gunner
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I would lean towards the G26. To me they are easier to conceal than an revolver. Unless you plan on ankle holstering which isn't all that advisable unless it's a BUG. Stopping power is nearly identical and reliablity is the same. Having double the capacity and faster reloads. I carry a 642 as a Bug and skip the extra magazine on my primary. On an ankle holster I don't notice it but arming yourself from your knees isn't a great idea.
I would lean towards the G26. To me they are easier to conceal than an revolver. Unless you plan on ankle holstering which isn't all that advisable unless it's a BUG. Stopping power is nearly identical and reliablity is the same. Having double the capacity and faster reloads. I carry a 642 as a Bug and skip the extra magazine on my primary. On an ankle holster I don't notice it but arming yourself from your knees isn't a great idea.
I would practice shooting the LCR before you commit in using it as your tool of protection. I have had my LCR for a couple of months. Any 2" snubbie is not easy to shoot accurately off the bat. They have long trigger pulls, have a short sight distance, and have a kick which many would consider too heavy. It took me about 100 rounds before I could shoot it straight and accurately. I was this close to trading it. But since I have learned to shoot it, I have learned to love it since for its accuracy and portability. I have it right now inmy front pocket.
mud - I sent the PM9 back to Kahr. They couldn't find anything wrong with it and sent it back. No other questions, no offers to replace springs or other parts, nothing. No acknowldgment of the fact that 4 shooters tried the gun all having the same problem. They just said it was fine and sent it back to me without even cleaning it after they fired their test shots. I'm out almost $70 + shipping and still have a gun that doesn't work.
If Kahr wants my business they have a LONG way to go to prove it.
If Kahr wants my business they have a LONG way to go to prove it.
JohnBiltz
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All I'm going to say is I carry a G26 and don't own a LCR.
Have you shot it after it came back? Results?
jad0110
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Depends on the snub. You'd be surprised at how easy a 2" S&W K Frame is to shoot.
Zerodefect
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No CCW quiver is complete without a J-frame sized revolver and a Glock 26/19/23. So get both.
I don't pocket carry, but an IWB holster like the Crossbreed Supertuck makes CCW painless for either of these guns.
The J-frame is more comfortable to carry. But the Glock 26 absolutely outshoots it big time. The g26 aimes better (assuming you replace the sights with something better), has a quicker trigger, and better recoil control.
Not to mention I can reload a g26 well. Under pressure, I'd rather throw my empty J-frame at the threat than reload it.
I don't pocket carry, but an IWB holster like the Crossbreed Supertuck makes CCW painless for either of these guns.
The J-frame is more comfortable to carry. But the Glock 26 absolutely outshoots it big time. The g26 aimes better (assuming you replace the sights with something better), has a quicker trigger, and better recoil control.
Not to mention I can reload a g26 well. Under pressure, I'd rather throw my empty J-frame at the threat than reload it.
Sevenfaces
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Go with the Glock. I used to hate them, but I have to admit the G30 (.45acp sub compact) I carry around is damn near perfect in every area that makes a good ccw gun good, with the sole exception of being a little... "fat"
I'll be honest though, snubby revolvers just look like crap to me. I really like revolvers, as long as theyre 357 or higher, and 4" barrel or longer. idk why, I just do.
I'll be honest though, snubby revolvers just look like crap to me. I really like revolvers, as long as theyre 357 or higher, and 4" barrel or longer. idk why, I just do.
I agree other than pocket carry I find my 26 as easy to carry as my J frame. I find my 26 actually conceals better in the appendix posistion in a High noon holster than my J or K frame snubs. The short square but just dissapears where the round revolver but wants to print. I can carry my J appendix if low enough but in the same shorts and fitting t shirt I can carry 10+ rounds of 9mm.
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