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There is no "Ultimate" or "Best" weapon for everyone.
If there was, it would be the only firearm made.
Pick up, handle and, (if possible), fire as many as you can.
Get the one that feels best to you, and shoot it as often as you can afford to.
You'll be fine
 
I'm a cop and I carry a glock on duty because that is what I was issued. It's a tool. It works.

ALL of my personally owned firearms are revolvers. Other than LEO purposes, I have no use for an auto that one of my wheel guns won't handle just as well or better.
 
axelar,

Hello & welcome to THR. I would recommend a S&W 640. You can carry .38 @ work and .357 when not at work. I like the concealed hammer and it is just a few ounces heavier than the 642 while in the same package. you can holster it IWB at work and pocket carry out. Many options.
 
Earplug:
And once again earplug, "a" does NOT require capitalization unless it comes at the beginning of a sentence.

If A guard is needed, then the better weapon is required.
Based on what? what is the perceived threat? and what makes you think a semi is a "better weapon?" higher capacity? sure. quicker to reload? sure.
But a revolver is easier to learn. Perhaps the heavier DA trigger pulls take more practice to master, but it is easier to learn to be safe with a wheelgun than with a semi-auto.

Might I add, that the "better weapon" is the one with which the OP feels the most confident. Not the one that YOU perceive to be subjectively "better." If it is a semi-auto, then fine. If it is a revolver, also fine. But far be it for ME to decide that what I would choose, is also the better weapon for the OP. He said he is intimidated by semi-autos. Sure he might get over it with practice and exposure, but for now it is what it is. We'll leave it at that.
 
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It's gettin' hot in the kitchen... :) I was new to all this gun stuff not so long ago. My fave shooter as a newbie (still consider myself as such) was the S&W625. The moon-clips hold all six rounds of .45 in one easy-to-pocket bundle and make for quick extractions and reasonably fast reloads. The 625 weighs as much as a small dog, so it's a pleasant shooter. If concealment is a criterion, the 625 would not be for me: I'd opt for S&W686+ (7shots) with either the 2.5" or the 3.0" barrel.

Good luck and let us know how you fare.
 
19-3. perception is 27 semi pistol shooters competing at A handgun shoot. One wheelgun shooter (me). Your state the revolver is easy to learn then say the DA trigger takes longer to master.
This is the common story of people who shoot revolvers, but fail to compete with them. Its one thing to shoot a revolver in SA mood and wax about accuracy and simple operation. Its quite another thing to shoot a DA revolver in a timed stress competion and master the DA trigger and learn a efficient way to handle reloads.
Why limit the newby guard to A century plus old design with a implied not proven notion of being safe? Safe does not make A fast accurate shot accross thirty feet of bank lobby or out back of a meat packing plant at night. Both would be a common threat of my past private guard duties.
The DA revolver as factory issued is not as easy to shoot as a semi auto.
Now add the multitude of night sights available to service autos.
As I stated before, let the new guy consult with his trainer.
When I see my local bank guard with his 6 inch wheel gun I think Barney Fife from TV.
When I see A Rent A Cop with A Semi I wonder about many things.
 
Being safe does not mean it is easier to shoot. But if the simple manual of arms allows him to feel a higher level of confidence in his tool then he may be more likely to use the thing if G-d forbid, he ever needs it. Confidence and familiarity breed confidence. If that means picking a semi, great. But if having a revolver means he can shoot 6 shots to defend his cargo/customers/etc... rather than the 17rounds in a magazine that he won't shoot or will shoot poorly because he doesn't trust the platform...well, i'd rather see him with the wheel gun.
As I said before, whatever gives him more confidence.
I agree with you about asking the trainer. However, I would hope the trainer is good enough to find out what axelar wants to use rather than wha the trainer wants him to use.
 
I'm a diehard revolver guy. I've never had to carry a fire arm in the open, on a belt. If i did i would carry an auto. I think there is less chance of someone shooting you with your own gun. But thats me.
Besides whichever you decide. you said they will train you. Which ever you pick practice alot.
 
Again thanks for all the input. This is a massive help (because I know they are doing they're jobs) but the sales ppl will sell me anything I glance in the case. I also welcome any all skepticism, b/c this is not which flashlight to buy, but a tool that requires alot of thought before I pick one up for work.

I spoke with my supervisor who informed me, they will QUALIFY me, but I will not be given ANY formal training through the company I work for currently. Which means I have to seek formal/informal training on my own. They will not get me a discount at the range where they qualify, and I have to pay for my own ammo. Bad news I have no where to practice outside, b/c I live in apartment complex. All this is makin me a little skeptical about going armed, but I want the experience.

As of now, it's in the running btwn 2 revolvers, a model 65 (278.00) (which was purchased from a police auction), or a ruger gp100 (425.00new). I'm just still too intimidated by autos, but maybe that will change with time. Thanks for all the input.

Thanks again... and plz feel free to give your input.
 
Your best "ultimate" weapon will always be between your ears.

I always knew my schnoz would save my arse.

Oh, and axelar, be careful of the salespeople. Sometimes, and I know it sounds really strange, they won't try and sell you anything you glance at in the case. They have their favorites too.
 
You will not go wrong with the Smith or Ruger 4" revolver, although there are good reasons police now carry automatics.

The main thing is to practice as much as you can afford, in time and money. It needs to feel like second nature to draw and shoot accurately. Practice with different loads for the gun (one advantage of the .357 is the variety of ammo available). If you can afford it, take a class, but mainly, become extremely familiar with the gun. The gun is much less important than the shooter.
 
Between the two revolvers that you mention, honestly, you can't go wrong with that model 65. I am a big fan of Ruger's wheelguns, but I don't know that the difference between the two is going to be worth $150. In fact, there would be nothing wrong with chosing the model 65 even if they were the same price!! That's a fantastic deal on the 65. not only are you getting a great gun for someone new to shooting, you are getting a great value. I have seen those model 65's selling for much more.
You won't regret either gun. Once you are comfortable with shooting, and when you get the chance, rent or borrow a semi-auto at the range and put some rounds through it. They might be simpler than you expect.
 
<someone's got a little Attitude going>

I won't recommend any particular firearm, instead I will suggest that you go down to that apparently friendly gun shop where they are willing to let you test a few. Go there and try out several options. Try a .38 revolver, try a .357 revolver, try a 9mm semiauto, see what else they have, even try different brands of the same format (.38Special revolvers from S&W, Ruger, Taurus, Colt {if they have one there}, for example). All the suggestions in the world won't mean much until you actually shoot a few of them. And have the store staff show you how to handle the firearm, how to utilize any safety devices they might have, how they suggest (which you will verify on your own later) that you carry each one relative to any employed safety devices on each firearm, and in particular ask them about the Glock trigger system and decide if that's something you can deal with or not.

For semi-autos there are double-action only ones, and ones where the first shot can be double-action and then single action after that, and there are single-action-only semi-autos such as the Colt 1911 formats, and then there are the Glocks.

Personal preference, reading, training, and on the job experience will guide you from there.

Me, personally, I like revolvers, and I like semi-autos. I've used a Sig-Sauer P220 with the double action first shot and liked it just fine, even with the Euro bottom magazine release clip. I've used a Browning High Power and liked it just fine. I've used Colt and S&W revolvers and liked them just fine, even though I have a personal preference for the Colts.

I have no idea what state/city/country that Axelar {note proper usage of the capital A there} is from, which in and of itself could greatly influence his eventual selection. And since he (or possibly she) is also talking about using the firearm for offduty use then his personal preferences should carry a stronger factor in his decision making process.


And as to the Barney Fife comment above, these days the Barney Fifes of the world are more likely to be carrying a semiauto than a revolver, and the old dude by the door with the ancient revolver in his holster just might be able to shoot the eyes out of crows at 50 yards any day of the week. Don't let urban legend and attitudinal assumptions sway the decision process, too many people have died making bad Assumptions.

Just my opinions, take them with a grain of salt, flavor to your personal taste. :D
 
Hello Axelar, welcome to THR. One important factor in choosing a handgun is comfort. Comfort in knowing that you understand the manual of arms, comfort in securing it both on and off duty, comfort in practicing on a regular basis. If the revolver is the platform that you choose take the time to become comfortable with it. The revolver is a very effective tool for the job and as far as I know no bad guy has ever said "I ain't worried about that guy he only has a revolver."

By the way my Great Grandfather and my Grandfather both used revolvers as police, prohibition and security officers. Those revolvers have been handed down and are the "backbone" of home defence for my Mother, my siblings and my own family. None of us feel "under gunned"

Wheeler44
 
Axelar,

This thought just came to me, and it gets off topic a little, but does your new company offer you any liability protection relative to you being armed on the job? Or are they expecting you to cover yourself relative to liability and any additional insurance needs should you find yourself in a situation where your firearm gets deployed or put into use?

Just a thought since they don't require you to be armed and are expecting you to provide your own firearm. Consider this a friendly heads-up to check into and verify.
 
"Confidence and familiarity breed confidence."
- 19-3Ben

I'm trying to figure out how confidence can breed itself... Kind of embarassing considering he was busting someone else's b*lls for capitalizing the letter A.


If they don't require that you open-carry, consider not doing it.

If I were in your shoes, I would rather see my boss's inventory get stolen than get blown away over it because the guy saw that I had a gun. Although, I would definitely try to carry concealed regardless of the "rules".
 
I'd grab that model 65, and spend the rest of the money on good leather and ammo. Then, practice as often as you can afford.
 
"Confidence and familiarity breed confidence."
- 19-3Ben

I'm trying to figure out how confidence can breed itself... Kind of embarassing considering he was busting someone else's b*lls for capitalizing the letter A.

HAHAHAHAHAHA whoops!!!!! Now look who's got egg on his face! Almost sounds like something Yogi Berra would come up with.
I had meant to say that familiarity and confidence in one's handling of the weapon will breed the confidence to use it if necessary.
I didn't mean to bust balls over the capitalization thing. I hope I didn;t come off like a prick. No offense intended there.
 
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I won't feel bad for much longer. Wish more wheelgunners would try some action type shooting such as IPSC or IDPA to see whats happening and what is possible with a handgun.
 
Sixgunner- yeah that's both more accurate and more concise. My mind's been a bit fried lately with finals coming up.
Earplug-PM sent. and yeah, i'd actually like to get into IPSC or IDPA if I can ever get the time. And I'd definitely want to use a semi-auto for it.
 
I also recommend a revolver. A used S&W or a Ruger Speed Six would definitley not break the bank. You know earplug, after twenty-two years in the Army, the only two times I had to fire the auto .45 and eventually the 9mm after transition, I found the auto action did not work...yup, malfunction. Being an infantryman and crawling through all the muck, rivers, etc., I distrusted autos ever since. Hell, even my Dad was issued a .38 in WWII (he was an Engineer and worked on the trains that brought our wounded back from the front) which he swears by and continued to carry when he returned to the states as a LEO. You can have your bottom feeders for your paper punching competitions...leaves more revolvers for the rest of us.
 
As of now, it's in the running btwn 2 revolvers, a model 65 (278.00) (which was purchased from a police auction), or a ruger gp100 (425.00new). I'm just still too intimidated by autos, but maybe that will change with time. Thanks for all the input.
axelar,
I would jump on the S&W Model 65 if I were you. The K frame revolver was the classic carry revolver for Policemen all over the country for many years. It's a fine revolver and it's not too heavy where it will be a burden to carry all day. You will be very happy with a M65, I'm sure of it. There's nothing wrong with the Ruger GP100 but it is heavier and it will cost you more to buy.

You don't need an outside range to practice. Try and find an indoor range so you can practice without being bothered too much. Go online and buy some bulk ammo so you won't do too much damage to your pocket before you get the job. You can buy bulk .38 Special ammo from Cabela's for $10.80 a box of 50. There are other deals on the NET that are as good or better if you look around.
 
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